Carvin DCM2570 Power Amp?

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The Wizard Of OZ

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I posted on another board to see if I could get some info/feedback regarding the Behringer EP4000.

Someone PMed me an offer for a Carvin DCM2570 which is more powerful than the Beringer, but it doesn't go down to 2ohms.

Thoughts?

How does one do a deal like this with someone they don't know as far as payment and making sure both parties get what they expect and are satisfied at the end of the transaction?
 
I thought they were out of business. I tried to look at their website a while back and if you type in www.gtdaudio.com there is basically nothing there. They had no amps on ebay at the time either. Are they in business or out of business?

Have you ever run the GTDaudio amp at 2ohms with music playing for an hour or two or three?

Thanks
 
I thought they were out of business. I tried to look at their website a while back and if you type in www.gtdaudio.com there is basically nothing there. They had no amps on ebay at the time either. Are they in business or out of business?

Have you ever run the GTDaudio amp at 2ohms with music playing for an hour or two or three?

Thanks
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I have run it at 4 and 2 ohms in party settings no problem the fans just ran faster.
 
The 2570 is the red-headed stepchild in the DCM amp line. :D

Seriously, compare the specs between the 2570 and the 2500. The 2570 doesn't offer as impressive capabilities like 2 ohms per side nor 4 ohms bridged.

That said, if you won't be needing those capabilities, the 2570 is a decent amp for the price. :)
 
I was offered the DCM 2570 for $350 plus shipping from Wisconsin. I think shipping would be at least $25-$30 from WI to FL since the amp is nearly 40lbs without packing materials. He said it's 3 years old and has barely been used. It puts out a lot of power and I'd buy it before I plunked down the same amount of money for a Behringer EP2500 or EP4000.

I had stopped considering the GTDaidio because I thought they were out of business. $275 for an amp that puts out that kind of power is really tempting especially being on a tight budget. Hmmm.......?
 
Wiz it is your Golden Egg and cheap like you like it. Added Bonus you get your 2 ohms ya wanted. Go for it. Nobody should try and stop what you plan to do even with advice or specs differing. Enjoy.After its a done deal I look forward to being the first.......................
 
Naw Im not rich other than in experiences and just have lots of yrs invested in this bizness it truly doesnt happen overnight.
 
I heard the EP4000 is just the EP2500 with re-stated specs. Its gives peak power now.
With that said, I use an EP2500 on my subs in Bridge 4 ohms and they work as advertised. Only time I see you needing 2 ohms is if you have 4 8ohm cabs per side or 2 dual 15" cabs per side or 2 dual subs per side that are 4 ohms per.
I never worry about the 2 ohm rating to be honest. I dont have any applications where I will need it so I dont sweat it.
Its like wanting a car that can race in Taladega staright from the showroom, sure its nice to have that HP. But where the hell will I use it?
 
Its like wanting a car that can race in Taladega staright from the showroom, sure its nice to have that HP. But where the hell will I use it?

Don't ask :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
As I said, I have a couple of large venues that I may have an opportunity to perform at and I'd like to place a stack of three 8ohm speakers per side. One Sb122 sub with two 8ohm speakers stacked on top. I could probably use just the Sx100s and the Sb122 subs and be fine, but I want the option to use 3 speakers per side or use the Zx1s as monitors. I'm looking to stand head and shoulders above other performers and DJs in this area with my sound. I have 3 amps that I can use, but if I can do it all with one amp it would be a lot easier. I can still have the other amps with me as backups.
 
ezee, I heard the same thing about the EP4000. I'm looking to get an amp even more powerful that that. I want power to spare.

I'm very careful about how loud I push my speakers so I doubt I'll over drive them. Of course anything is possible, but I haven't blown any drivers yet.
 
Wiz will the stack of three per side put you above your competition? Wow I havent been to Florida in a really long time.
 
Please keep the 2570's specs in mind. It doesn't offer 4 ohms bridged nor 2 ohms per side stereo. The other DCMs do. If given a choice between the 2570 and the 2500 I'd take the 2500, hands down.

We use the 2500 bridged to drive a pair of 18" bass bins. That's a 4 ohm load. We wouldn't be able to do that with the 2570. :)

You're getting a decent amp for the offered price. The Toroid DCMs have been discontinued. The 2570 listed for $700.00 new.

Just some thoughts.
 
Wiz,
Headroom is good but too much it can come back and bite you. My CV AB-36B's are powered by QSC PLX2 3602's Bridged at 4 Ohms that's 1800 watts per speaker RMS and the speakers are rated at 1500 watts peak. Am I puping 1800 watts into them all the time? No. When the clip lights start flickering I don't push them harder because I don't need to. While testing the system I drove the amp to hard clipping for a few times, nothing happened to the speakers but the boom coming out of the folded horns was just too much, you could perform CPR with them, no need for one to make chest compressions :D:D:D:D

I have a DBX compressor/limiter hooked up and I don't worry about overpowering the subs, but I would not use the 3602to power a pair of BR15 Yamaha's. With any speaker if you push them too hard there's a very good chance for speaker failure, no need for a 2000 or 3000 watt power amp running a pair of 400 watt program loudspeakers.

Get a good amp designed to run with the tops you have and another one for the subs it0ll make your life much easier and your rack will be a lot cooler temperature wise.

Just my $0.02
 
I AM definitely concerned about blowing my speakers using too much power and you make a good point that I came to understand over the last few days of experimenting SVO. I thought my Alesis Multimix 8 mixer just didn't have much headroom because I was turning the knobs way up with using the low powered amp that I've been using for the last couple of months.

When I started running just one top and one sub in bridged mode I found that the mixer only needed to be turned up very slightly and even small turns of the knobs yielded large increases in volume. Very interesting for me. I came to appreciate my mixer even more, it's one of my best purchases. I would buy another one.

I tried two different amps in bridged mode and experimented with running just the upper speaker off one amp and the sub off another amp using the crossover for the sub only. I could tell I was approaching the upper power end of the top speaker, but still clipping so I knew that more clean power could be used if I was careful.

I did the same with the sub running only one sub in bridged mode on the PV-1500 and I could tell that the sub could take more power than what the Peavey amp could deliver. This is why I am hunting for a much more powerful amp. If I can get an amp for a reasonable price I can use it just for my subs-and they will thump. The amps I have now are good enough to run my tops.

Most of the places I perform at I will be able to run two tops and two subs off one powerful amp-I'm already doing that with much less powerful amps and I am plenty loud enough. I've used the Radio Shack Optimus 250 amp that was given to me for free over and over and it performs flawlessly-ZERO problems-sounds great-even driving a top on one channel AND a top with a sub on the other channel. I can run one top and a sub on each channel.

If you have a nice car with 400hp it's not enough, you want 650hp and nitrous and a turbocharger. I want lots of horsepower, I know eventually I'll use it. I don't have to squeal the tires and burn rubber every time I use it, but I know I have the horsepower available for when I need it. It's very easy to adjust the input signal if you want to throttle back the system.

Fred, I've decided that even though that Carvin is a very good deal, it's not quite what I want or need. I want to be able to run bridged @4ohms and to be able to go down to 2ohms if necessary even though everyone is telling me not to run at 2ohms. I've read several comments from people who run Behringers and other amps at 2ohms without any problems. If I run at 2ohms it doesn't mean I will run my speakers at full tilt, that's exactly the point. If I have more speakers I don't have to run them as hard.

Anyways, I need to find out for myself what different equipment can and can't do. I now have several mixers that I got for almost nothing and several amps that I got for nothing or almost nothing off craig's list and off ebay. I expect to come out of this knowing a lot more than what I knew before I started experimenting. I can sell nearly everything I've gotten for a profit. I have enough free cables that have come with stuff I've bought to circle the earth a couple of times. I have enough gear now to do a small concert. Once I get the amp I want and need I'll probably start selling off some of the speakers and amps and mixers on craig's list, it will be enough to pay for several amps.
 
Wiz I know you are carefull about your purchases but I would not recomend the GTD if it was not good. I have used everything from Carver, QSC, Crown, Ashley, Peavey, SAE and this amp stacks up there with them. I have also found out this amp is the same amp made for a few well known European electronics companies.
 
I'm a sucker for a bargain and the GTD is the most bang for the buck by far that I've seen. I'm having a hard time resisting it. I'm pretty sure I can sell my Peavey PV-1500 for $200-$250 on craig's list and that will pretty much pay for the GTD amp. I'll still have two more amps plus my Yamaha EMX512 powered mixer that I don't use anymore. I'll be selling it on ebay for around $350-$400. I'd keep it if the vocal effects were better.