Weddings Tell me what you think a 'good' DJ does

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Did the blog honestly come off as me seeming to say I was 'better' than anyone else?

In a round about way, yes, it does.

To clarify my first response, read the following examples...

1. (yours) "Before a good DJ plays the first song, they ask questions, and do a lot of listening."

2. (suggestion) "Before I play the first song, I ask questions, and do a lot of listening."


Feel the difference? Even if what you say makes sense, your language dismisses anyone practicing differently. This comes off as hierarchy. The first-person version is genuine and confident.

Savvy?

Now that's some stuff I missed. This is the kinda stuff I was looking for. Thanks


A good DJ would have known that. :sqlaugh:
 
In a round about way, yes, it does.

To clarify my first response, read the following examples...

1. (yours) "Before a good DJ plays the first song, they ask questions, and do a lot of listening."

2. (suggestion) "Before I play the first song, I ask questions, and do a lot of listening."


Feel the difference? Even if what you say makes sense, your language dismisses anyone practicing differently. This comes off as hierarchy. The first-person version is genuine and confident.

Savvy?




A good DJ would have known that. :sqlaugh:

Had I spoken in the first person ('I') then I would understand your feeling like you do. Instead I spoke in the general ('A'). What I said was true... 'A' good DJ does all of those things. The fact that you took offense is unfortunate, and I assure you that it wasn't meant to come off as elitist.

And yes, a DJ who does not 'practice' listening to the wants of their client is inferior to the one that does.

Savvy?


In regards to your statement "A good DJ would have known that." I will ignore the inference you make. What I meant by my statement was to say that I hadn't thought to include 'professional equipment' as a barometer for a good DJ, and after asking a more in-depth question regarding it I am not sure that it is important in regard to conveying the idea for the non-DJ reader.

Hence why I brought this here asking for some expert opinions... In regard to the message.

Your 'suggestion' for an alternative approach is noted, Thank you for your time. :)
 
One and only one thing is required to be a good DJ.

Listening skills.

It all begins and ends with the clinet in front of you.
 
Feel the difference? Even if what you say makes sense, your language dismisses anyone practicing differently. This comes off as hierarchy. The first-person version is genuine and confident.

Yes. I feel the difference, but I disagree with your conclusion.

On a chat board "I" can mean the difference between a warm fuzzy feeling and a flaming hot fight.

The whole point of publishing articles however, is too promote yourself from a position of authority. To do that convincingly you have to speak with authority. "I" and "In my humble opinion.." don't do that very well.

I haven't read the blog, but if his intention is to promote himself then I would not expect him to diminsh the import of his message with qualifiers like "I." He's not just talking about his practice - he's also trying to minimize yours. Competing for supremecy of ideas is the whole point of promotional writing.
 
One and only one thing is required to be a good DJ.

Listening skills.

It all begins and ends with the clinet in front of you.


hell no.
 
If this is material is for brides to read,
to get an idea of how you think
and give them a "warm-fuzzy" about the kind of guy you are...
I think it works well.

I don't think this article needs to get into the equipment argument, cause even DJ's dont agree on what's best
(only what works best for them)

And I like that it is NOT written in first person.
sounds less like bragging, and more like "common knowledge.
 
Yeah - Im a sole-proprietor/owner-op and I use the "we"/"us" approach on my website and in marketing materials.

If "we" talk about how great we are as a company, we come across as just stating objective fact - whereas ME talking about how great I am is a huge turn-off.
 
Justin unless you are taking the me myself and I approach as WE then isnt it a form of deception? Would it not possibly turn a client away who might be confused and thinking your just another multi op organization?
 
A good DJ will not play the Macarena or Chicken dance until told to! LOL...:sqlaugh:

in the end, what makes the Macarena or Chicken Dance different from any other popular song we play?
should we not play them just because they are novelty songs?
their novelty only explains HOW they became popular!
heck, almost ANY song that is popular at weddings could be called "novelty"
what about Celebration by Kool and the Gang?
over-used? over-played?
SURE!
but it's a song that people recognize and it encourages them to dance.
which allows you to keep them dancing with all kinds of songs.
what would happen if we, as DJ's, would not play any song that WE are tired of hearing?
Sometimes the Chicken Dance or Macarena is just what a dead crowd needs!
 
Yeah - Im a sole-proprietor/owner-op and I use the "we"/"us" approach on my website and in marketing materials.

If "we" talk about how great we are as a company, we come across as just stating objective fact - whereas ME talking about how great I am is a huge turn-off.

Justin unless you are taking the me myself and I approach as WE then isnt it a form of deception? Would it not possibly turn a client away who might be confused and thinking your just another multi op organization?


Mark Twain said it best:

Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial we.:sqwink:
 
Justin unless you are taking the me myself and I approach as WE then isnt it a form of deception? Would it not possibly turn a client away who might be confused and thinking your just another multi op organization?

Yeah - that's it - me, myself, and I - Im something like a trinity.

On the serious side though, no not at all. It has never been a cause of confusion for anyone who has asked or who has hired me.

My whole thing is this... it's just as much a psychological sales tool for clients as it is a reinforcement mechanism and checks and balances for me to keep myself in line.

How so?

Even though I am an owner/op, I make a distinction at every level between Justin the guy and Sounds To Go the DJ Service. For me, it gives not only a better image for perspective clients, but serves to hold me accountable and helps me to keep my eye on a bigger picture. The distinction may be silly, but it serves me well enough.

See - if I view my company, and myself, as just some guy with some speakers who goes out and plays music every now and then, there's no real accountability, and there might be a lack or wane of drive and focus. But if I keep that distinction going, I'm operating, even if its an illusion/delusion, to grow and serve an entity that is larger than myself.

It reminds me that Sounds To Go is something I am building - and is an entity, however small, that I can control the future of, determine the success or fall of, etc.

I started this thing out with a pipe-dream/vision that Sounds To Go would someday grow into something else (no, not just another multi-op dj company), and so keeping Sounds To Go as an entity only makes sense. From here, it's only a matter of financial and mental scalability, and speaking out to the world AS IF it were it's own business entity only makes sense.

If I'm speaking to clients on behalf of an entity, it means I am speaking for something greater than myself, and basically just keeps me on track.

It also has the benefits of not coming off sounding like a braggart, and helping to instill confidence in the eyes of perspective clients.

If they like the services, philosophies, practices, and procedures you outline on your site and in your marketing materials, that's all that matters. The degree of personage from which this message is delivered is irrelevant.

It's hokey, but it works. Both for me, for clients, and fits my style just fine.
 
YAWN!!!!!!:sqrolleyes:
 
I think the original post generally works well to use if you are trying to pitch to a bride the idea of paying you more to be a wedding coordinator. Its all "warm and fuzzy" as Ausumm pointed out.

Is this thread a critique of that sales pitch, the philosophy of the belief, or just an honest attempt to learn more about what ODJT thinks a good DJ should be?

My idea:

Be the best DJ/entertainer/emcee you can be using the tools you have before you. If you are successful, you can waste all your hard earned money running around Gdamn Kansas City to pick up more useless sh!t for your lovely wife off craigslist just so she'll stay off your a$$ every time you leave the house to go earn a dime. Then maybe you can get get than new Gemini table top CD player you've been dreaming about.
 
EASY AS 1, 2, 3:

1) Get to know a little bit about your new possible client.
2) Listen to your client and see if you can provide the entertainment desired.
3) Perform the event as promised.

Imagine this...it involved getting to know the needs of your client and delivering the services promised. Amazing huh? :sqeek:
 
Imagine this...it involved getting to know the needs of your client and delivering the services promised. Amazing huh? :sqeek:

That's both funny and exemplifying.

When you stop and think about it, why would it be necessary to print something like that?

As a (somewhat) intelligent person and an educated consumer, I find redundant information as a sales tool insulting. There are certain things that are (or should be) given without explanation.

:sqwink:
 
The whole problem with this is the erroneous assumption that you can, or "should be able to" objectify the completely subjective.

There are as many "Good" dj's as there are GOOD DJ'S, and they are all different and all have different areas off specialty, expertise, their own strengths and weaknesses, etc.

Sure, you can may try to identify some common-threads, traits, or practices, but that's about as close as you can get - and it certainly isn't sufficient enough by any stretch to qualify as a criteria for evaluation, let alone "certification" or any attempt to define a concrete "Golden Standard."
 
I'm not a "Wedding Entertainment Director" and I certainly don't completely fall in with the ADJA "Code of Conduct." I never joined a DJ trade organization like the ADJA or NAME. There's nothing around here anyway. I never went through any DJ school like FAME or received any formal certificate to be a DJ. However, I am a mobile DJ. Anybody who wants to tell me otherwise because I don't fall into what they think a DJ should be can kiss my @$$!
 
I'm not a "Wedding Entertainment Director" and I certainly don't completely fall in with the ADJA "Code of Conduct." I never joined a DJ trade organization like the ADJA or NAME. There's nothing around here anyway. I never went through any DJ school like FAME or received any formal certificate to be a DJ. However, I am a mobile DJ. Anybody who wants to tell me otherwise because I don't fall into what they think a DJ should be can kiss my @$$!

LOL... That's just it Ducky... we're all self-proclaimed "dj's..." the question is... are you a "good" dj... or better yet... a *real* dj? :sqlaugh:

According to some, not until you pay your dues!:rofl: