May I know who...

[Guest]

deleted two posts of mine last week, and why?

I discovered that I had a subscription to a topic that I hadn't posted in (and I never do that). I looked at the thread, and realized I HAD posted it in twice, but they were both GONE.

I'm not suggesting removing these posts wasn't correct, but I thought procedure was that the member was supposed to be notified when posts are taken down.

What is the policy on this, and is it being followed?

I left another board over almost this exact same issue.

Policing: no problem, it's needed. Even if I'm the one being "cited".

Secret policing: I have a problem with it.

 

[Fred Wright]

Thanks, Steve.

I'm not sure what's up with the deleted posts so I'll let Dan, Jon or the rest of staff address that one. I will say that, sometimes threads are trashed for TOS reasons. If you had a post in the thread, it would disappear with the rest.

As the old adage goes, success is a journey, not a destination. We're always trying to improve. One of the things we need to improve on is communication with members when threads or posts are modded. Most times we get it right, a few times we haven't. Ordinarily, a thread is posted by the staff member in regards to a deleted one. This is done to keep members informed.

 

[Jon Tuck]

Not knowing detail in this case but helping delete double posts in the past perhaps one removed both by accident or in fact two mods may have attempted to remove the second one at the same time as the first one being moved by the other mod. Just my dos centavos. Sort of like the no thanks button issue. If you have posted at the same time others have responded it sometimes wont show a thanks option for the previous posts until refreshing the browser. I have ran across this phenomena. I am saddened to see folks being suspicious of foul play by any of our staff it isnt how we roll. I always make efforts to contact folks with any action to be taken in almost every occasion and apparently I need to restructure how I handle things. Im a work in progress give me time I will fix me.

 

[Guest]

That wouldn't be the case here, Jon. I PMed a mod here who is also a friend of mine earlier this week about it. This person confirmed to me that I'd gotten moderated for the "content" of my post. While I'm disappointed that my post wasn't allowed to stand, I understand my brand of commentary can appear caustic, and this particular point wasn't (and isn't) worth arguing. I was going to let it go, but considering there's also another current thread discussing "who can say what, about what, when, and why", the issue became more relevant again in my mind.

And... what if I were someone who didn't have a friend who is a moderator that I could PM about "secret policing"? How would I feel about this site, if I were that person?

IF there's a problem of this type, I'd like to see it addressed.

I'm hoping my request is being investigated and the answers will be forthcoming. I can site the post and paraphrase what was removed, it that's needed.

 

[Dan The Man]

deleted two posts of mine last week, and why?

I discovered that I had a subscription to a topic that I hadn't posted in (and I never do that). I looked at the thread, and realized I HAD posted it in twice, but they were both GONE.

I'm not suggesting removing these posts wasn't correct, but I thought procedure was that the member was supposed to be notified when posts are taken down.

What is the policy on this, and is it being followed?

I left another board over almost this exact same issue.

Policing: no problem, it's needed. Even if I'm the one being "cited".

Secret policing: I have a problem with it.

It was I who deleted your post and Dennis's post quoting yours. I do agree with you 100% that the member should be notified and I normally do drop a PM when a post is removed. IIRC, I was on my way out the door and wanted to prevent a pissing match.

It appeared that you were being sarcastic with Dennis, he took offense and replied, then someone reported the post which is how it came to my attention in the first place.

 

[Jon Tuck]

So are you claiming special treatment? Friend? If you had contacted Admin or Dan in this issue you wouldnt be questioning it still at this juncture. "Secret Police" I love that title but its not prevailing in ODJT. Im quite sure your concern as well as many others are being looked into at this very moment. thanks for the post and your valuable time. We shall make efforts to get solid answers forthcoming.

 

[Dan The Man]

That wouldn't be the case here, Jon. I PMed a mod here who is also a friend of mine earlier this week about it. This person confirmed to me that I'd gotten moderated for the "content" of my post. While I'm disappointed that my post wasn't allowed to stand, I understand my brand of commentary can appear caustic, and this particular point wasn't (and isn't) worth arguing. I was going to let it go, but considering there's also another current thread discussing "who can say what, about what, when, and why", the issue became more relevant again in my mind.

And... what if I were someone who didn't have a friend who is a moderator that I could PM about "secret policing"? How would I feel about this site, if I were that person?

IF there's a problem of this type, I'd like to see it addressed.

I'm hoping my request is being investigated and the answers will be forthcoming. I can site the post and paraphrase what was removed, it that's needed.

My PM box is always open to anyone if anyone has a problem or feels they're being mistreated they can drop me privately or post in the front desk publicly at any time. Normally the only time posts are removed is when they're reported and someone has looked over them except for the obvious duplicate posts and spam.

It is our policy to notify though you not getting a message was my fault. I apologize and offer no excuses.

 

[Jon Tuck]

wow looky there I went to thank Dan but because he posted on top of me I have to refresh.
REFRESHED and thanked.

 

[djrox]

It was I who deleted your post and Dennis's post quoting yours. I do agree with you 100% that the member should be notified and I normally do drop a PM when a post is removed. IIRC, I was on my way out the door and wanted to prevent a pissing match.

It appeared that you were being sarcastic with Dennis, he took offense and replied, then someone reported the post which is how it came to my attention in the first place.

See Steve, I told ya.

"Secret Police"

It's no secret. This is Dan's forum. He is the Judge, Jury, Final Arbiter and Enforcer.

Simple really.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Dan.

I'm glad this is the policy here. When things are not done quietly or secretly, it removes any suspicion of hidden agendas.

I encourage anyone who has a problem with something I post to get in contact with me. I can delete my own posts, or continue a discussion of any kind. If a problem is with someone who can delete my post(s), I feel even more strongly that contacting me when deleting my posts is the right thing to do.

 

[Jon Tuck]

I have no badge so will call in the boys in blue or Deputy Dan if needed in the future.

 

[Guest]

Hey Steve, we trouble makers have to stick together.

No problems with me. I'll let you know if there are problems.

 

[Chuck The DJ]

See? Yet again, everything gets handled before I even get up!... Life on a rock....

 

[Dan The Man]

Thanks Dan.

I'm glad this is the policy here. When things are not done quietly or secretly, it removes any suspicion of hidden agendas.

I encourage anyone who has a problem with something I post to get in contact with me. I can delete my own posts, or continue a discussion of any kind. If a problem is with someone who can delete my post(s), I feel even more strongly that contacting me when deleting my posts is the right thing to do.

I understand Steve it's the appearance of impropriety and normally I'm on top of it, we all slip up though.

I have no badge so will call in the boys in blue or Deputy Dan if needed in the future.

You got a badge..maybe you just cannot see it under all that tar.

See? Yet again, everything gets handled before I even get up!... Life on a rock....

hehe, Actually Steve I have to say Chuck was waiting for me with a nine iron backstage because I didn't message you. Luckily I ducked, he's got a mean swing and took out half the bar!

Seriously though, It was a day or so after the fact I figured it was already too late and it would look like I was trying to save face.

 

[Jon Tuck]

Umm Dan just because your the BGH

doesnt mean your accurate all the time. In fact you ought to know it would take more than 6 pages of tar or fethers to cover me enough tho know If I were wearing a badge. Bullseye? Barbecue sauce that is I dont let a drop drip.Different story.

You got a badge..maybe you just cannot see it under all that tar.

 

[DJ SVO]

Steve,
The guys here have been very nice, you just have to remember I'm the only one who can post about Viagra, Levitra or Cialis since I can write the Rx

 

[Guest]

Steve,
The guys here have been very nice, you just have to remember I'm the only one who can post about Viagra, Levitra or Cialis since I can write the Rx

If I understand correctly from another thread, you can only claim that sort of exclusivity if you sponsor a forum.

 

[Chuck The DJ]

he does....

 

[DJ SVO]

If I understand correctly from another thread, you can only claim that sort of exclusivity if sponsor a forum.

Yes, but there's only 2 MD's on the site So we're the only ones who can write them up

 

[Guest]

I Have had post that i couldn't figure out why they were removed, then I realized that I wasn't hitting the post reply button!

I have had others that weren't noxious that did disappear and I figured they just fell into the abyss of the internet!