Yes. A wired mike.
Light rentals should be figured into your price, not come out of your profit.
?_WIRELESS MICS_? *Suggestions, Advice*
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Yes. A wired mike.
Light rentals should be figured into your price, not come out of your profit.
^^Rental Is def. an option...but would any of these models suffice / is there a better choice here-
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Nady-DK...and-Held-Microphone-System-277405-i1127205.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/VocoPro-VHF-3000-Dual-Channel-Wireless-Mic-System-241592-i1323475.gc
http://www.northernlightfx.com/cart/product.php?productid=503&cat=1072&page=1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Digital...eless-Microphone-System-103946190-i1172265.gc
http://www.northernlightfx.com/cart/product.php?productid=17509&cat=1072&page=1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/VocoPro-The-Bridge-FM-Transmitter-Wireless-Mic-System-271316-i1394185.gc
this is what i came up with...for this gig, i will probably rent...but are any of these systems worth purchasing??
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Nady-DK...and-Held-Microphone-System-277405-i1127205.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/VocoPro-VHF-3000-Dual-Channel-Wireless-Mic-System-241592-i1323475.gc
http://www.northernlightfx.com/cart/product.php?productid=503&cat=1072&page=1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Digital...eless-Microphone-System-103946190-i1172265.gc
http://www.northernlightfx.com/cart/product.php?productid=17509&cat=1072&page=1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/VocoPro-The-Bridge-FM-Transmitter-Wireless-Mic-System-271316-i1394185.gc
this is what i came up with...for this gig, i will probably rent...but are any of these systems worth purchasing??
Um, the reason I use the Pyles for drunk mics is because they WON'T fail. Solid steel. Bounce 'em, beat 'em, whatever. Are they terrific mics? Nope. But he said he was on a tight budget for now. I'm thinkin' he can't afford the good stuff yet, so this seemed to be the best advice....? Within a budget range like his, it seems the way to go.
You can only buy so much at a time, we're all there. Get what you need for right now, but when you make a purchase, spend the $$ and get good equipment to start with. You'll be glad you did.
Sounds like something we would tell our clients
If you plan on doing a lot of weddings don't rent your tuxedo, buy one (with extra shirts)
Samson Stagepass 5H. I just got mine in the mail today. Fantastic for the money. Check with NorthernlightFX to see if they carry it. I've seen it online for about $79.95 brand new I think and for less on ebay.
I used it for about an hour today to test it out. Only one thing I noticed that I didn't like about it was it had some handling noise. If you keep it in a mic stand then it's not a problem. If you pick it up and put it down frequently, turn it on and off frequently and handle it a lot then this mic may not be for you.
Ask Steve Cie about the Nady DKW duo. Maximum bang for the buck. It's a real cheapie, but I've used mine dozens of times with zero problems. It's a dual handset model for $40-$50. Down and dirty, it gets the job done. If you're on a tight budget this will get you through the next few months until you can afford a better mic. After that you can use it as a backup.
I used it for about an hour today to test it out. Only one thing I noticed that I didn't like about it was it had some handling noise. If you keep it in a mic stand then it's not a problem. If you pick it up and put it down frequently, turn it on and off frequently and handle it a lot then this mic may not be for you.
Ask Steve Cie about the Nady DKW duo. Maximum bang for the buck. It's a real cheapie, but I've used mine dozens of times with zero problems. It's a dual handset model for $40-$50. Down and dirty, it gets the job done. If you're on a tight budget this will get you through the next few months until you can afford a better mic. After that you can use it as a backup.
I got two yrs out of my gemini diversity mic and it is now safely tucked away as a backup. Im proud to have the EV mic its a huge upgrade and also have the headset add on. I have rented many pieces along the way figured into my pricing and now have purchased all the proper pieces to continue on for yrs. Renting is an advantage until it has costed you as much or more than a final purchase.Renting allows you to try out the AT's the Shures, The EV's and Sennheisers to determine the proper mic you feel most comfortable with. Buy a 100 dollar suit and spend your rent mioney on future potential gear.
Ok, here's an update on the Samson Stage 5H. I used it again today for a couple of hours and it eats 9 volt batteries. My Nady DKW Duo is much lighter on battery drain. I can use a 9 volt in the Nady for 10-12 hours maybe more. The Samson seems like it uses up a 9 volt in 3-5 hours. The handset and receiver are plastic, not metal. The range is very, very good. You can go far away from the receiver with no problems at all.
The Samson is quite a bit more sensitive than the Nady which is better for singing, which is what I do. For talking and announcements it's not as much of a factor and the Nady is just fine for that.
Surprisingly, the Nady seems to be a bit more sturdy than the Samson. I would definitely recommend the Nady for someone who wants something really cheap, but decent. At $40-$50 it's well worth it. I've had mine for around a year I think.
One other wireless mic system I forgot to mention is the Vocopro VHF-3000 dual handset wireless for $89. I've used it several times and the handsets are very solid, made of metal. Sound quality is very good too. If you want a middle of the road mic, this is it. I could see it lasting for years and years because it's well made.
Don't let these guys tell you that you need a $300 or $400 wireless, it's just not true. The Vocopro is a good quality product for a fraction of the price. I've used my Nady over and over and over and . . .I used it the other night in front of 100+ people with no problems whatsoever.
The Samson is quite a bit more sensitive than the Nady which is better for singing, which is what I do. For talking and announcements it's not as much of a factor and the Nady is just fine for that.
Surprisingly, the Nady seems to be a bit more sturdy than the Samson. I would definitely recommend the Nady for someone who wants something really cheap, but decent. At $40-$50 it's well worth it. I've had mine for around a year I think.
One other wireless mic system I forgot to mention is the Vocopro VHF-3000 dual handset wireless for $89. I've used it several times and the handsets are very solid, made of metal. Sound quality is very good too. If you want a middle of the road mic, this is it. I could see it lasting for years and years because it's well made.
Don't let these guys tell you that you need a $300 or $400 wireless, it's just not true. The Vocopro is a good quality product for a fraction of the price. I've used my Nady over and over and over and . . .I used it the other night in front of 100+ people with no problems whatsoever.
Wizard Of Oz said:
Wait until FEBRUARY 17, 2009 -- and we'll see about that!
How many of those cheap mics will be rendered WORTHLESS when their frequencies are blocked by Emergency Band communications?
These Nady, Samson and Vocopro are VHF frequencies. Something like 170mhz to the mid 200mhz range. I don't think there will be a problem, but I'm certainly no expert. I've only once had fleeting FM interference when I did a performance near the intercoastal waterway. In that area there are lots of boats and a higher population density. It's also near downtown Clearwater near the courthouse and other large buildings. In any case it lasted for a few seconds and stopped when I turned the handset off and on again.
I would be more concerned if I had an expensive UHF mic in the 700mhz band.
People think VHF mics aren't any good but they have no idea whatsoever why they think that. There is no difference in sound quality between VHF wireless mics and UHF mics. Don't believe me? Do some research. My Samson is rated at up to 300 ft line-of-sight range, how many DJs go more than 100 ft away even with a conga line?
I would be more concerned if I had an expensive UHF mic in the 700mhz band.
People think VHF mics aren't any good but they have no idea whatsoever why they think that. There is no difference in sound quality between VHF wireless mics and UHF mics. Don't believe me? Do some research. My Samson is rated at up to 300 ft line-of-sight range, how many DJs go more than 100 ft away even with a conga line?
The only wireless microphone I have is an AT that operates around 170mHz, VHF. I work in the Indianapolis metro, I can can think of only one incident where I had a problem and that was near a hospital that was near a county communications tower, and at that time I knew the mic wouldn't work from the git-go due to a hum.
Unless you are planning on being over 50ft from the receiver VHF has worked very well for me in a metro area.
Unless you are planning on being over 50ft from the receiver VHF has worked very well for me in a metro area.
Any microphone can have interference, even hard wired microphones. I did a party at the Tampa Club a few years ago, which is on the top floor of what was (at that time) the tallest building in Tampa and was considered the 'in' place to have an event The view is incredible. Directly above me on the roof were antennas for everybody (radio stations, govt services, etc) which put out very powerful (over 10K watts) signals. Wireless microphones were useless and I was receiving interference on my wired microphones via the XLR cable. The only way I was able to use my corded mics was to shield the XLR cable by wrapping it in aluminum foil.
Don't know about worthless, but even top-end SINGLE CHANNEL
will have interference problems at some point. A 64 channel full diversity Gemini mic or an 8 channel Pyle may be worth more to you at that time then a single channel Senn or Shure ( I own all of the above). Even my crappiest home use VHF mic is multi-channel.
I've been somewhat of a fanatic about this since I worked a multi-facility banquet hall for the first time.
I have my brand preferences, but don't push them. I DO push mult-channel, and single, rather than dual or quad units..
In this particular case, if you don't want a Pyle, then for a little more money I would go with DJ Bob's suggestion of the Gemini 64 channel. I have 2, and both are workhorses. When you get the money, THEN go for the SM58, Beta, Senn, whatever.... I'm keeping in mind that this mic is for ANNOUNCING only...
Hang in there....
I'm willing to venture that most of us ate it big-time on our first few weddings. Go ahead and start off inexpensive for now to do what you need to do to get going, but don't expect ot be free of drop-outs, noise, and problems with budget units. Start saving for a better-grade wireless the minute you pay for your entry-level job. As long as you look at this purchase as what it is - a short-term stepping-stone, you'll do just fine.
Also, look into buying a tux. Get a previously-rented job (shoes too) from the same place you rent at and you will get the whole get-up for suprisingly little. Three or four rentals would probably be equivalent to what you could get one for.
I'm willing to venture that most of us ate it big-time on our first few weddings. Go ahead and start off inexpensive for now to do what you need to do to get going, but don't expect ot be free of drop-outs, noise, and problems with budget units. Start saving for a better-grade wireless the minute you pay for your entry-level job. As long as you look at this purchase as what it is - a short-term stepping-stone, you'll do just fine.
Also, look into buying a tux. Get a previously-rented job (shoes too) from the same place you rent at and you will get the whole get-up for suprisingly little. Three or four rentals would probably be equivalent to what you could get one for.
This should be the same for everything you listed, even tux rentals until you can buy your own. It goes without saying then that all of these things will artificially drive up your rates until you make them a part of your own arsenal, and this should serve as the impetus to do so as soon as possible - but until then, try to pass as much cost as you can to the customer so you aren't "paying to play" any longer than absolutely necessary.
Although some of the PylePro mics are multi-channel (meaning that you can switch the frequency that it operates on), please note that all of the Pyle UHF mics operate way above 700mhz, so you can pick any channel you want but it will still be affected by the DTV conversion in February 2009. Not a good choice, even at $70.
Same deal with Gemini and VocoPro - none of their UHF mics operate below 700mhz. Buyer beware.