EIGHT INCH Speakers with OOMPH?

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Well... 500 watts per side @ 4 ohms is decent power for a set of mid-tops. You can get great sound full range with this amount of amp dissipation depending on the sensitivity of your cabinets. The Carvin DCM1500 amp offers this spec and we've been able to do well with it for shows where a lot of in-yer-face SPL isn't required.

We used to run our top cabs full range. The ticket for us was to roll off at 90 Hz or thereabouts and let a sub or mid-sub box do the rest.
 
Wiz,

The ZX1s are easily over powered, believe me when I tell you you don't want to try and get anywhere near their claimed Maximum power (peak rating) I tried to get power to them using a 750 watt per side amp and at about half power the voice coils start slapping. They are quite happy with 250 watts per side though.
 
Wiz,

The ZX1s are easily over powered, believe me when I tell you you don't want to try and get anywhere near their claimed Maximum power (peak rating) I tried to get power to them using a 750 watt per side amp and at about half power the voice coils start slapping. They are quite happy with 250 watts per side though.


Steve, I was actually thinking of these when I ran into the Jolly8Rs. can you give an idea of where you think they should be max rated? In other words, at what point over the 250w did you run into trouble? I know you can't say exactly. I mean about how far was that 750w amp cranked...
 
I was at about half what I have no problem giving the Impulse 100's! Which I can say they won't take all the 3500 has to give either but real close to it before over extension becomes a problem.
 
I'm glad this discussion came up because I can see using either the Zx1s or Jolly 8Rs for monitors for karaoke singers sometime in the future and for mains for my singing shows at smaller venues which is mostly what I do right now. The Impulse 100s would be perfect for me if I didn't already have the EV SX100s.
 
so Wiz ya finally did your first paid gig? How was that experience and how much did they pay you for that golden throat?
 
Marco,

I agree the concept is nice but when you lug around that 500 it is big and bulky nearly twice the size and weight of the 250 which is already too big and bulky for what it is.

Set up really isn't any faster for me than a conventional system. I have a small board/amp/player system that is 1400 watts and with two 10" speakers sets up faster than the 250 and is a lot lighter, the difference is if I am carrying it by hand I have to make two trips instead of one. But I don't beat myself up carrying it either.

Don't get me wrong I love the Passport but the 150 is much more back friendly than the 250, I haven't owned but I have used the 500 once just to try it out!

I just came across this old thread and wanted to comment on the Fender Passport 250 and 500....Yes they are big and bulky but I can easily overlook that because the speakers are only about 15 pounds....I can deal with the bulk of the system and have for 10 years...It's one of the few systems where I can lift speakers onto stands without having to seek help at the venue...The other is my FBT MaxX 2A's..
 
I want to add for this same reason I may give a serious look at the EV ZX1/SB122 Combo later in the year.
 
Well, now that I've used my Zx1s for a while I can say that they are very good speakers. I can see them being use for floor monitors for Karaoke, mains on poles over EV Sb122 subs and even using them alone without subs for small audiences/small venues of under 50 people. I've used them for a bunch of senior citizen shows in small rooms with maybe 35 people and they were way more than enough. The most common comment I get is "it's too loud, can you turn it down?" For small audiences they're overkill and considering their small size the bass is impressive.

I've even used the pair of Zx1s and one Sb122 sub for a senior performance in a large hall in Tampa, maybe 100 ft x 60 ft and they still asked me to turn it down and I barely had it turned up. I don't have an amp powerful enough to not clip at high volume levels so I don't know how much power they can really handle. I do know that a pair of Zx1s and a pair of Sb122 subs can do a wedding of 250, maybe even 300 people no problem as long as you have a good, powerful amp. My amps go to 500wpc@4ohms max. I've never tried the speakers with anything more than that.

The sound is clean and clear and very good for vocals. I used them last night for my singing show I do. I can totally blow away a small 2000-3000 sq ft room, no problem.

The Zx1s are kind of expensive IMO @ around $250-$300 each, but they are really small and light weight and that's really important to me. I got my pair off ebay for $365 for the pair and that is even a lot of money to me. My 12" EV Sx100+ speakers blow the Zx1s away, but they are much bulkier and weigh about 30 pounds each.

I would love to hear the FBT Jolly 8 speakers, but I doubt I will ever get the chance unless I just buy a pair. As good as they appear to be, I wonder if FBT will EVER have wide distribution in the USA. Same unfortunately for RCF, but I'm very reluctant to buy speakers without ever hearing them.
 
Wiz, start saving for the SB2A. You will have amazing system! The Zx1/Sb122/Sx100+/ SB2A combo will give you the best system for your money and you can do 300 ppl easy!
 
Sb2a is way too expensive. No way I can spend that much, it just doesn't seem worth it. At least not to me. I love the idea of not carrying heavy amps and a heavy amp rack, but the cost difference between the Sb122 and the Sb2a is outrageous. If the Sb2a was $200-$300 more than the passive I could consider that, but it's WAY more than that.

Most likely I will always stick with passive speakers. The only way I will use powered speakers is if I find a KILLER deal.
 
Just wait for deals. I paid 900.00 CAD for mine...
 
Sb2a is way too expensive. No way I can spend that much, it just doesn't seem worth it. At least not to me. I love the idea of not carrying heavy amps and a heavy amp rack, but the cost difference between the Sb122 and the Sb2a is outrageous. If the Sb2a was $200-$300 more than the passive I could consider that, but it's WAY more than that.

Most likely I will always stick with passive speakers. The only way I will use powered speakers is if I find a KILLER deal.

I am just the opposite...Have been strictly Active Speakers for years except for my Fender Passports....The ZX1/SB122 Combo may be my exception..Partially because it seems to be already packaged as a complete system thus no guesswork about matching components of which I have a very poor history.
 
I have also been running subless for the last few years due to weight and lifting issues but on occasion do events where I wish for more bass...The Little SB122's would be a great help.
 
For what I do the Sb122 subs are plenty of bass. I don't do school dances, I don't play lots of rap and hip hop and usually don't get an opportunity to crank my system up loud. I'm hoping to get the opportunity to crank it up in the future.

I can tell you this, a pair of Zx1s with a pair of Sb122 subs can take a lot more than 500wpc@4ohms that I currently have. I wouldn't be afraid to feed them from a 1000wpc@4ohms amp. You just need to be careful and reasonable about cranking the volume level. You could feed the subs alone 1000wpc at 8ohms, they're rated at 1600wpc peak. If you're in reasonably good physical condition you can carry one in each hand pretty easily, they're under 35 pounds each. Sx100 are even lighter and for their size they really crank. Overkill for a small venue.
 
I am going to do more research before I plunk down money for this or any other system...I am forever searching for that bass you can "feel" in a small,lightweight package.....It could be Chuck from Maui is right when he says "If it ain't heavy,it ain't sh**in which case I will have to just do without.
 
After seeing Kevin Nichols rave about his EV system for the last year or so, I decided to go ahead and buy the ZX1 / SB2A combo.

They should be here by Friday and hopefully I am able to use them for a performance on Saturday.

I'm looking to replace my FBT 4a speakers with this system for small events and weddings
 
You won't be disappointed, in fact you'll get complements-especially from people who know audio. The sound is clear and crisp. You'll rock the house. And you won't break your back.
 
I just used my system again. Now every time I use it I get compliments on the sound. Those Zx1s are very good for vocals and combined with the Sb122 subs it sounds so good. Even with my little Radio Shack Optimus 250 amp it sounds GREAT! I run one Zx1 and one Sb122 per side-a 4ohm load. The sound is a combination of clear and rich. Good bass and some thump when you crank it up. Does it churn your guts? Nope, it just sounds good. If I had a more powerful amp it might do some gut churning, who knows? Problem is I never get to turn it up really loud.
 
I figured that I would mention that we just got our hands on some of the ZX1-100s & the 80th Anniversary EV ZX1-90s.
The ZX1-100s are black with a 100x100 degree horn.
The 80th anniversary ZX1-90s are Metallic Gray and feature a 90x50 degree horn.

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