Do You Dance With The Crowd?

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Kirby Ball

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This is a more appropriate place to continue this if anyone so desires.
 
Cesar said:
Can't respect others view points when they don't see the danger in their actions.

Would that be can't or won't respect other's points of view? What dangers? I'm not being sarcastic merely curious.

I learned a long time ago that there are no friends when it comes to DJing.

How sad, I have made many friends along the way due to our involvement in the DJ field.


If you want to put it to the test pick out your best friend and tell them you will DJ their next party for free and then back out the night before.


Why would I want to deliberately burn a friend? If your promise to help a friend, whether it be DJing for them for free, help them move, paint their house, etc. then you should honor your word to them. If you don't, then you aren't their friend.


If you have been DJing this event for three years and you enjoy doing it why would you put yourself in the situation that you might have a disagreeable conversation with someone at the end of the night and they would be able to say the DJ was drinking I smelled it on his breath.

Oh boy a drunk person complaining that I had beer on my breath? Come on, you can do better than that. By the time I took the floor everyone that was there was tanked.

If I had a disagreeable conversation it would more than likely be with someone who had way too much too drink and I know how to handle those situations as I spent a lot of years as a bartender.

I use my own experiences to compare what someone is saying against what I have seen in the Real World.

When one compares, they usually give an example or two to show the differences. Since you capitalized Real World, you must be inferring that I live in Fantasy World?

Just one old man sharing a view with another old man.

Don't know if you're an old man or not, so I can't comment on that. Not so sure that you're sharing views, more like making judgements on others.

Peace.
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I know you're away right now and I'm not piling on you for that reason and was going to address your post earlier.

Peace Out
 
I have a tendency to do a lot of dancing, singing and air guitar behind my booth. I was working a wedding last year and was getting asked a lot that night to slow dance by the ladies. That's when I realized that keeping my wireless mic in my pants pocket is a great conversation starter.

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Here's my real answer, yes if it moves me and seems appropriate i'll go out and get them more hyped especially because I always have a Roadie (who is another dj) with me. If it's a party I know we will need dancers I have party motivators too
 
Rarely will I do it. However, like sarge said, if i know the people I may. Also, I remember one time at a corporate party a girl requested a song. I played it, she tried to get others to dance with her....but she was out there dancing by herself and looked uncomfortable being out there alone. So I danced with her. She was very thankful. Turns out it was the owner's daughter and he thanked me for dancing with her when he gave me a nice tip.

My only advice about dancing is:
1)don't make a habit of it.
2) keep it professional
3) Don't try to be the center of attention

I believe very few things are cut and dry. Most situations have a gray area. For example, I don't drink at events. But recently, I a groom came up to me with a shot glass and said, please do a shot with me and my wife. I did. So now I guess I do drink at events....sometimes.
 
Almost always in the past -- I always led the Electric Slide, Hokey Pokey, Chicken Dance, YMCA, and all the cheesy stuff :sqbiggrin:

Used to do a great Paradise by the Dashboard Light and Time Warp as well (theatrical thingy, that was part of the show).


If I had to go out now, no -- I could, but the Lyme thingy, will make my knees swell up, and put me out of commission for a few weeks... :sqfrown:
 
Most definitely...not always...when I'm asked...If the spirit encourages me to do so...All of this is true. I want to break down the barriers between the crowd and me as the DJ but the timing and the moment must be right so it is hard to quantify. I do know this. The more interactive i am able to be, the better the event usually flows. And, flow is where it's at!
 
Thanks for your well written response, Stacy. :clap:

We all do things differently and I feel that whatever works for one person may not work for others.
 
Kirby
It must be a photographer thing, here are the two photographers at my wedding last night throwing down

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Kyle
 
In this business being professional comes with alot of gray areas.....


I agree Jeff, but I would like to add that a lot of professions can fall under this statement.

Some would say that if you don't maintain a website you are unprofessional..I disagree I have many friends in this business who don't including a guy that has been at it over 40 years he's doing ok.

Correct, that guy who doesn't maintain a website may be more successful than many in his competitive area due to his longevity, business connections, refferals, etc.

Like many here I believe that it's up to the individual to decide how they are going to run their business. And just because it is percieved that someone is not doing what others think that person is supposed to be doing, it truly doesn't make that person wrong for doing so.

Some would say if you don't stand all night you are unprofessional...Again I disagree. Sitting/standing does nothing to help your level of professionalisim

Agreed, Jeff. This is a divisive issue that some try to make a decision on what another should be doing without knowing all the facts.

Eating/drinking at a function is unprofessional? If you are invited to do so why would it be unprofessional? It's a simple fact of life you have to hydrate regardless of profession. I enjoy a few Diet Pepsis every time I play. I don't consume alcohol at a function but it's more for marketing reasons than the fact I actually feel it diminishes my abilities. I used to and to tell you the truth some of the best functions I have played I don't remember. I don't suggest this to anyone or feel it is for everybody but a beer at the end of the night among friends what the hell.

Another divisive issue that many forget to see the other side of the equation. Almost every single function that I have performed at, whether it is a reception or just a party with food..the clients want us to eat and there are a few that are quite insistant on us doing so.

Do I knock those who don't eat. Nope as it's their decision. Do I eat at every function? Nope.

Beverages, you must have liquids to keep hydrated. I normally switch back and forth between water and some kind of soda with caffeine.

Drinking alcohol on the job? Not during, but once in a great while I may have a beer at the end of the night. My decision, my business and as long as I am an adult I feel that I'm able to make that decision for myself.



You are willing to pray at a function because the guy is a christian what would you be willing to do if he was an alcoholic?

I'll bow my head out of respect for their beliefs, but I'm not going to drink just because someone tells me to.

I have had my gear spread all over the table and it still didn't stop a couple of hundred people from singing the lyrics I had the time of my life at 1 AM.

LOL, we must be twins separated at birth. Again it's one of those things that the individual must decide.

I play weddings with dress pants and my company shirt on.

Same here Jeff. Black dress pants, white collared long sleeve shirt with our logo embroidered on it, tie, black dress shoes and I've never had one client complain or even ask me to wear something different....Ok, I lied..I had a client ask me to wear an aloha shirt, shorts and tennis shoes to her reception as it was her theme.

If someone one wants to wear a tux. That's not my concern.

I hang a nice big sign with my company name on it

LOL, I guess we differ here Jeff... I don't have a sign...yet. Would I use it at a reception, no...but at other events, sure...as long as I had approval from the person who hired me.

and although I am not as graceful as Kirby I have danced the last song of the evening many times

Jeff, I'm far from graceful. Dancing the last song is not the end of the world, in fact if a DJ comes out from behind the booth and dances with someone during an event that would be their choice also and really depends on the individual circumstances.

I'll let my clients determine whats professional not the unknown comic/DJ

Yes. I agree.
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Last edited by Jeff Romard; 08-20-2008 at 04:00 AM.


Good post Jeff, I wanted to respond earlier but failed to do so.

Kirby
 
Some would say that if you don't maintain a website you are unprofessional..I disagree I have many friends in this business who don't including a guy that has been at it over 40 years he's doing ok.
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I don't really know about it being professional or unprofessional. What I do know is today's wedding customers are typically internet users. The internet and their vendor's websites are a big part in the decision process.

If someone is getting as much wedding business as they want without a website, then I don't that dj is any less professional than anyone else. I just don't think it's a good business decision. I do think that person or company is probably undercharging because I believe they could book much more business with a web site. I do agree that there may be exeptions, but those exeptions are few, and are not the norm.

Personally, I will rarely do business with a company today that doesn't have a web site. When I want to find out about the goods/services they offer, a website helps tremendously. When looking up a company and can't find a website, I believe they aren't making it easy for me to find out about them and don't really deserve my business. If a company has been a growing company for 40 years, they should have been keeping up with modern trends. A 40 year old company without a website tells me the company is winding down, which is ok. Some companies have very basic websites, which gives store hours, location, contact information, which is better than nothing. Also, I don't like to do business with companies that don't have a phone number on their website.


Disclaimer: The above statements are not designed to tell anyone how they should run their business. Those are my beliefs, based on my business experience and experience as a consumer. Hopefully, either someone will find them helpful or offer me some different, fact based experiences that may make me change my opinion.
 
How could anyone (including Cesar) do business in this century w/o a web presence?

I've proven time & time again that you DO NOT NEED A HOSTED DOMAIN SITE to have a web presence!

(just google "barber shop in Auburn CA" or "furniture store in Auburn CA"--- neither of these businesses have a web site, but as you can see from the search results: its possible to have a strong internet presence simply by taking advantage of UGC sites)
 
You make a good point that someone can have an internet presence without having their own website. Makes sense to me.

I still believe that a wedding DJ will be more successful having a website than he/she would without.

I totally agree that people are not that interested in looking at a barber shop's website to determine if that's the barber shop that want to use. They want to know where they are located and their phone number. Andy did a good job.

FYI, I don't think my web presence is as good as it could be. I need lots of work on it.
 
Scott Hanna said:
I don't really know about it being professional or unprofessional. What I do know is today's wedding customers are typically internet users. The internet and their vendor's websites are a big part in the decision process.

If someone is getting as much wedding business as they want without a website, then I don't that dj is any less professional than anyone else. I just don't think it's a good business decision. I do think that person or company is probably undercharging because I believe they could book much more business with a web site. I do agree that there may be exeptions, but those exeptions are few, and are not the norm.
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Scott I agree 100% I was trying to make a point to Cesar.
 
DJMC said:
How could anyone (including Cesar) do business in this century w/o a web presence?

I've proven time & time again that you DO NOT NEED A HOSTED DOMAIN SITE to have a web presence!

(just google "barber shop in Auburn CA" or "furniture store in Auburn CA"--- neither of these businesses have a web site, but as you can see from the search results: its possible to have a strong internet presence simply by taking advantage of UGC sites)
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any examples of successful wedding dj's that have a stong web presence and doesn't have a website?
 
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