Ducky & Jmac
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I don't know if it's ok to to comment on this, but:
I am in agreement with D&D regarding the laptop thing. If you go to one of my listings, you will see that I use "No MP3s, Only Licensed Manufacturers' Discs" as a selling point, and it has garnered me quite a bit of business, per comments included in inquiries. Just my experience....
I am in agreement with D&D regarding the laptop thing. If you go to one of my listings, you will see that I use "No MP3s, Only Licensed Manufacturers' Discs" as a selling point, and it has garnered me quite a bit of business, per comments included in inquiries. Just my experience....
That's very noble, but couldn't the same be said regarding a laptop?
Most clients find them to be very impressive. I've yet to meet the client that's concerned with the licensing of my collection. Many B&Gs come to meetings now with flash drives and ipods in hand.
I don't mention my media at all on my website and all is well. Don't bring it up unless asked.
from my website:
"Our music is played back on Professional Name Brand audio equipment from CD, Vinyl or Mini-Disc. Our music comes to us from either Professional DJ Music Services or retail music outlets. All our music is played back from sources in accordance with current Federal Copyright Law."
"Our music is played back on Professional Name Brand audio equipment from CD, Vinyl or Mini-Disc. Our music comes to us from either Professional DJ Music Services or retail music outlets. All our music is played back from sources in accordance with current Federal Copyright Law."
That's very noble, but couldn't the same be said regarding a laptop?
Most clients find them to be very impressive. I've yet to meet the client that's concerned with the licensing of my collection. Many B&Gs come to meetings now with flash drives and ipods in hand.
I don't mention my media at all on my website and all is well. Don't bring it up unless asked.
Good point. A person with a laptop could say:
I don't recommend someone saying it or putting that in any marketing. I don't believe in negative marketing. But I have read some marketing where disc based dj's accused computer dj's of stealing all of their music and/or just turning on the computer and hitting play. In either case, it's wrong, inaccurate, and makes someone look petty. Point is...Bad dj's using unauthorized copies or just hitting play and letting it go is NOT just a computer thing. Bad dj's were doing it a long time before computers were used.
As i've said before, Use what ever is going to help make you the best DJ you can be. If you really feel putting other DJ's down for their choices is helping your sales, you'll be shocked how your sales will go up when EVERYTHING in your pitch is positive.
several months ago, I did have a client say to me:
"Another DJ told me that using computers to dj is illegal and I need to be worried about the cops stopping the wedding because computer dj's just download their music illegally".
I laughed and, said "I can't imagine why someone would say that or think that. First of all, i have heard of a wedding being stopped. Secondly, we always buy all of our music from quality authorized sources."
I offered to show him my cd's. He laughed and said "No need, I thought it sounded stupid".
"Another DJ told me that using computers to dj is illegal and I need to be worried about the cops stopping the wedding because computer dj's just download their music illegally".
I laughed and, said "I can't imagine why someone would say that or think that. First of all, i have heard of a wedding being stopped. Secondly, we always buy all of our music from quality authorized sources."
I offered to show him my cd's. He laughed and said "No need, I thought it sounded stupid".
Only other DJs worry about the legality of music source. Clients could give two shytes less. Just about every younger-than-35-years-old potential client is in possession of huge amounts of illegally downloaded, illegally copied, and pirated music, software, videos, and movies.
I love the argument about what if a laptop crashes. A cop out of total ignorance from another technologically challenged DJ who can't figure out computers. A digital DJ has more flexibility, redundancy, and backup resources on hand than I've seen any traditionalist have. Vinyl and CD jocks use that "hard drive crash" argument as an excuse for their own ineptitude or sheer laziness to take the next technological step, much like the vinylists said about the CD evolution (and still do 25 years later). It has little to do with the audio delivery system or legalities.
The MTBF (Meantime Between Failure Rates) of a computer is much higher than a CD player. Check it out for yourselves. Smart clients see right through that flimsy veil of yet another ridiculous fear tactic.
I love the argument about what if a laptop crashes. A cop out of total ignorance from another technologically challenged DJ who can't figure out computers. A digital DJ has more flexibility, redundancy, and backup resources on hand than I've seen any traditionalist have. Vinyl and CD jocks use that "hard drive crash" argument as an excuse for their own ineptitude or sheer laziness to take the next technological step, much like the vinylists said about the CD evolution (and still do 25 years later). It has little to do with the audio delivery system or legalities.
The MTBF (Meantime Between Failure Rates) of a computer is much higher than a CD player. Check it out for yourselves. Smart clients see right through that flimsy veil of yet another ridiculous fear tactic.
Cap, I work in an IT department. I see broken desktop machines and laptops come through every day for either mechanical fixes or reimaging (typically from downloading malware). Based upon the weird things I've seen happen with personal machines, as well as work machines, I would never consider a laptop to be technology that is reliable enough.
On the other hand, I've seen CD players do strange things. I've worked with a CD player that only plays burned discs about half the time. I've also had one of the decks on a dual-deck CD player randomly stop pushing out a signal (CD was spinning, time remaining was counting down, but no sound).
I'm not saying that either technology is full-proof and I'm sure that most other DJs would agree that having adequate backup is important.
And don't get me started on fear tactics. As a bride-to-be who is seeking a DJ, I've heard plenty of them in regards to technology and pricing (the whole "you get what you pay for" mentality).
The point is, that we can market ourselves adequately without directly stepping on and citing the practices of other businesses.
To me, it's a cheap sell.
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To me, it's a cheap sell.
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Point taken. That's why I get so frustrated when I'm on the phone trying to hire a DJ and they go on about how a part-time DJ is a cheap hobbyist who takes no pride in their work or about how DJs who use CDs and vinyl are too cheap and lazy to upgrade their technology.
Not sure, but I think it's time to hijack this thread and take it in another direction. Cesar? Rick? A little help, please?
I believe each person should work with what they feel is comfortable for them. I love my LP's and still use my turntables, when the CD's came out they first needed to overcome the lack of proper equipment to work with them. Once the CD players with pitch control came out CD's were back in the game. The size of the crates came down. Now mp3's are available and media controllers are out there that let you handle these files just like LP's or CD's.
Now comes the biggest advantage out there that makes using mp3's so much easier is size and weight. Even at my house when I throw a party where moving my crates means moving them 150 ft my back loves the weight reduction. I just bought a second laptop as backup and both of my machines that are used for DJing have no internet access. Why? To avoid malware, viruses, etc.
As a music nut I have to have a hard copy of every single song I have and I rip them to my hard drive and use them when needed, no chiropractor for me in the future (Well my speakers have something to say about that )
Now comes the biggest advantage out there that makes using mp3's so much easier is size and weight. Even at my house when I throw a party where moving my crates means moving them 150 ft my back loves the weight reduction. I just bought a second laptop as backup and both of my machines that are used for DJing have no internet access. Why? To avoid malware, viruses, etc.
As a music nut I have to have a hard copy of every single song I have and I rip them to my hard drive and use them when needed, no chiropractor for me in the future (Well my speakers have something to say about that
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DJ Ducky: Do you use a computer (desktop, slimtop, laptop, and/or rack mount) for music reproduction at your DJ'd events?
Only other DJs worry about the legality of music source. Clients could give two shytes less. wrong
Just about every younger-than-35-years-old potential client is in possession of huge amounts of illegally downloaded, illegally copied, and pirated music, software, videos, and movies. while this is true, what the hell is your point? that it's okay for you to do it too?
I love the argument about what if a laptop crashes. A cop out of total ignorance from another technologically challenged DJ who can't figure out computers. some of my clients would be offended if they read this, no thanks
A digital DJ has more flexibility, redundancy, and backup resources on hand than I've seen any traditionalist have. that's not everybody's concern
Vinyl and CD jocks use that "hard drive crash" argument as an excuse for their own ineptitude or sheer laziness to take the next technological step, much like the vinylists said about the CD evolution (and still do 25 years later). It has little to do with the audio delivery system or legalities. I don't use that argument. People who have hired me have seen this. And it is not about being lazy. And, yes, I am just as inept about new technologies as you are about accepting others.
Smart clients see right through that flimsy veil of yet another ridiculous fear tactic. I guarantee you that you use "ridiculous fear tactics," noted by what I just read, and no thanks again for noting that some clients are not so smart
Just about every younger-than-35-years-old potential client is in possession of huge amounts of illegally downloaded, illegally copied, and pirated music, software, videos, and movies. while this is true, what the hell is your point? that it's okay for you to do it too?
I love the argument about what if a laptop crashes. A cop out of total ignorance from another technologically challenged DJ who can't figure out computers. some of my clients would be offended if they read this, no thanks
A digital DJ has more flexibility, redundancy, and backup resources on hand than I've seen any traditionalist have. that's not everybody's concern
Vinyl and CD jocks use that "hard drive crash" argument as an excuse for their own ineptitude or sheer laziness to take the next technological step, much like the vinylists said about the CD evolution (and still do 25 years later). It has little to do with the audio delivery system or legalities. I don't use that argument. People who have hired me have seen this. And it is not about being lazy. And, yes, I am just as inept about new technologies as you are about accepting others.
Smart clients see right through that flimsy veil of yet another ridiculous fear tactic. I guarantee you that you use "ridiculous fear tactics," noted by what I just read, and no thanks again for noting that some clients are not so smart