Is Dynacord expensive?

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I believe I made a post that effective March 1 the price on the Dynacord D-Lite 3012 went up to $7,600 (we're still honoring the show special until the end of March, btw)... but I just wanted to get some feelings from those of you in TV land.

Is that too much to spend on a powered speaker system (3-way 12" tops, 15" subs, includes poles, covers and cables)?

Obviously to a lot of people who heard the system, it made a pretty big difference, and obviously the number of people who bought the system don't think so... but I'm just wondering what you'll have to say about it?

Nobody will get flamed here, not on my watch. Post what's on your mind.

Ben
 
Will you be bringing it to Mobile Beat Chicagoland in July?

I'm 70 miles to the east and plan on being there for those three days.

I haven't heard them yet, so I can't say one way or the other.
 
hiredpower said:
Will you be bringing it to Mobile Beat Chicagoland in July?

I'm 70 miles to the east and plan on being there for those three days.

I haven't heard them yet, so I can't say one way or the other.
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Your post helps the cause. I certainly hope so. :)

Ben
 
Expensive is largely what you expect to get out of them. We have old speakers and amps....but they are all tried & true workhorses. I would expect longevity from the Dynacords to match the EV fashion. Without abuse, the ROI should be fair enough. If you expect to update your equipment every few years, you likely should consider such an investment....it may not resale in just a couple years enough to justify.

We prefer to purchase for a long haul, not for short term; things that will stand up to 15-20 years on the road. With such an investment, the cost actually goes down significantly, even though the initial investment is a bit more. Anyone like-minded should be very open to considering the Dynacords.
 
NorthernLightFX said:
Is that too much to spend on a powered speaker system (3-way 12" tops, 15" subs, includes poles, covers and cables)?
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For what it is, yes. For that matter, the L1 is overpriced for what it is.

Ben, we run a 6kw (RMS) passive tri-amped FOH rig and don't have seven grand vested in it. Close, but not seven grand.

That's everything from the Pio CMX-5000 front end to the processing to three Toroid Class A/B power amps to the cabinet stacks and includes stands for the mid-tops, cab covers, cables, SKB cases, SM58 UHF, Vue III, ADJ Sunray and a convertible platform truck thrown in for good measure.

But you knew I was gonna say that, didn't ya? ;)
 
I think the more apt question should be, "If this system meets your budget and is far and away the better product to comparable systems in the same price range, would you purchase it?"

For many smaller, single-op guys, I'm sure the Dynacord system would be well outside their budget, and nothing more than ear and eye candy. For some companies though, I'm sure it would probably be a purchase worth considering, in terms of longevity.
 
I will counter your comment Sparkie old pal. Im going to buy the system just below this one and it likely will last me through the remainder of my career with possibilities of additional add ons to this.
Trust me these are not eye candy and It fits my goal for downsizing and space saving. Plus how much per gig? If It lasts 7 yrs for say even 35 gigs a yr how much will they cost me using them at each gig. Lets round it to 250 gigs. the setup then costs me 28 dollars per gig.lot cheaper than that roadie.
 
Fred Stewart said:
For what it is, yes. For that matter, the L1 is overpriced for what it is.

Ben, we run a 6kw (RMS) passive tri-amped FOH rig and don't have seven grand vested in it. Close, but not seven grand.

That's everything from the Pio CMX-5000 front end to the processing to three Toroid Class A/B power amps to the cabinet stacks and includes stands for the mid-tops, cab covers, cables, SKB cases, SM58 UHF, Vue III, ADJ Sunray and a convertible platform truck thrown in for good measure.

But you knew I was gonna say that, didn't ya? ;)
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True Fred.. but what about Class H power amps with SMPS? Those A/B amps are taking a lot of that 6kw and turning it into heat and dissipation loss. Why lug around heavier cabinets and heavier amps if you can accomplish the same SPL (and perhaps have superior sound quality)? ;) That's exactly what happened with the XA demo this weekend... the XA system (6 boxes, amps and all) weighs around 500 lbs... it will save this production company about 2,500 lbs, several trips to the truck, less power consumption from their distro... all in all that system (at $24,000) will SAVE them money over their PA that cost LESS up front. They figured the fuel savings alone will pay for it!!

Just trying to stir the pot a little. ;)

Ben
 
Ben so you sold the Beast? Damn I saw bodies fly across the room when that thing hit the first big blast when the neighborhood didnt know you were in the house. After that some moved to China.
 
Jon Tuck said:
Ben so you sold the Beast? Damn I saw bodies fly across the room when that thing hit the first big blast when the neighborhood didnt know you were in the house. After that some moved to China.
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When they first saw it, they thought it was too small. ;)

Ben
 
So Ben, as long as we're talking about it, tell us more about the Dynacord gear. Whatever you think would be useful info and for my own curiosity, what type of venues(size in sq ft), how many people, what kind of music etc. would it be appropriate for.

Is the sound quality really that much better than for example a $3,500 sound system?

Can't we put together a terrific Electro Voice system for half of what the Dynacord gear costs? Or Yorkville or Yamaha or JBL?

These are all nothing more than questions, I'm not challenging you on the Dynacord. I wasn't at the convention, I didn't see or hear any of it. I hope to go next year, I'm sure it will be very valuable and I'll be in a better position to buy equipment when the next show rolls around.

Lots of DJs do mostly 150 people or less events in my understanding. Is the Dynacord setup appropriate for smaller operators who do average or smallish weddings and other small to average sized events? Thanks
 
NorthernLightFX said:
True Fred.. but what about Class H power amps with SMPS? Those A/B amps are taking a lot of that 6kw and turning it into heat and dissipation loss. Why lug around heavier cabinets and heavier amps if you can accomplish the same SPL (and perhaps have superior sound quality)? ;) That's exactly what happened with the XA demo this weekend... the XA system (6 boxes, amps and all) weighs around 500 lbs... it will save this production company about 2,500 lbs, several trips to the truck, less power consumption from their distro... all in all that system (at $24,000) will SAVE them money over their PA that cost LESS up front. They figured the fuel savings alone will pay for it!!

Just trying to stir the pot a little. ;)

Ben
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It's because we already have it and it works, lol. Transportation costs are a writeoff anyhow.

As many know, Wolfie is not an advocate for Class H amps. When your voltage drops to 95 at the business end of a crap service in a venue, I'll wager a paycheck on my Class A/B amps working fine any day. Ain't talking out of my hat... been there and done that. Many times. These big, beefy power supplies are there for a reason. :)

Superior sound quality? I'll take your word on it, my friend. I'm presuming that the Class H rail switching noise has been fixed.

Read and heard too many horror stories about muddy sound that was fouled up by eggheads who haven't a clue. We may not have the best tone in the world but it's darned good tone for no more than it cost. Remember, much of our system is touring-grade. (Not the speaker cabs, lol.) But the rest is definately roadworthy. You'll find nothing entry-level in our rack stack. :)

Believe it or not, we can run the full monte on a dedicated 20 amp service. The C/L helps. :)

Sorry, Ben. I can't justify that kind of money for a lesser system to replace a greater system. :D
 
I dont loock to the gear this way.If something is good like Dynacord or Bose-Yes Its a lot of money but sound gooooooooodddddd.
If we loock from audiophile side it is worth.If we loock from bussines wiew-no it is not.
But most of us cant help our self-if we hear something realy good we must have it.
 
A club here has the XA system...The sound is unbelievable...the bottom end will literally make you sick. I could not believe how small thye boxes were and that 2 amps powered this rig. I remeber working in clubs where we had a 8 foot rack filled.

For me 7 or 8 k is a bit out of my range......I know that I'd likely have a system that will sound great and last me for years ...for a bit more than 1/2 that I can accomplish the same with 2 RCF310's and 2 TTs12A subs in a 180 lb. package....

I'd gladly demo one for a year or so though......lol
 
Yes it is expensive.

Overpriced, hmm probally slightly.

I can't prove the value either. I do not know anyone that has owned a system. I like to personally see how it holds up after 1, 3, and 5 years.

The speakers are efficent that is what scares me. The SPL produced from the wattage provided is insane. It scares me to the fact that I would expect blown voice coils.

The amount of sound coming from the power sub 315 and the 2 tops. Was agrubally more than my 2 Turbo 12" and 2 Turbo 18".

I would honestly consider purchase of a setup, it's just not possible for me at this time.

Not to knock Ben, but I heard Guitar Center is starting to carry Dynacord. I'm expecting to see them drive down the price.
 
I've always said this...

DJ's are cheap... and I don't mean that in a bad way. If you're talking to a national touring band, you have their attention, but you're talking to the lower rung of the touring entertainment group.

There's no argument from me on the quality and road worthiness of the system, but try selling a Corvette to a guy who has only ridden a moped his whole life and lives on an island two miles wide.
 
Tyrone Blue said:
There's no argument from me on the quality and road worthiness of the system, but try selling a Corvette to a guy who has only ridden a moped his whole life and lives on an island two miles wide.
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Are you talking about Chuck from Maui?? :toothy9:
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
So Ben, as long as we're talking about it, tell us more about the Dynacord gear. Whatever you think would be useful info and for my own curiosity, what type of venues(size in sq ft), how many people, what kind of music etc. would it be appropriate for.

Is the sound quality really that much better than for example a $3,500 sound system?

Can't we put together a terrific Electro Voice system for half of what the Dynacord gear costs? Or Yorkville or Yamaha or JBL?

These are all nothing more than questions, I'm not challenging you on the Dynacord. I wasn't at the convention, I didn't see or hear any of it. I hope to go next year, I'm sure it will be very valuable and I'll be in a better position to buy equipment when the next show rolls around.

Lots of DJs do mostly 150 people or less events in my understanding. Is the Dynacord setup appropriate for smaller operators who do average or smallish weddings and other small to average sized events? Thanks
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The short answer is yes. It is better than a $3,500 system... and it has to be to justify the difference. Dynacord is the same company as EV, just the "next level" in audiophile sound. They co-exist very comfortably with each other because they serve different purposes.

The D-Lite 3012 system works GREAT for events up to 750 people, and is small, lightweight, and great looking which serves smaller shows just as well. That was the one that was shown at Mobile Beat, those who heard it have done a pretty good job of describing it. :)

Ben
 
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