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Bluetooth and WiFi are different. Most Bluetooth devices are close range - alot closer than WiFi.

With Bluetooth and WiFi, anything blocking the signals will have an affect.
 
rickryan.com said:
I'm wondering if we're not over-thinking this, just a bit. Yes, there are pitfalls to wireless but don't we all test our audio systems well in advance of the event? I'm usually on-site 2 hours in advance and have sound up within 30 minutes. I then roll quiet jazz stuff until event time. That usually gives me an hour and a half of time to test out the wireless connect. If it glitches, I've got time to change channels or to re-configure and use wire. I'm always one to default to the side of KISS until the cool factor of the component out-weighs the risk. My gut says that having the ability to better hide speakers and to brag about wireless is a worthwhile thing to try.
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Why is there a need to hide? Does a Band hide it's gear, a Pianist his Piano? Are you embarrassed of the Gear you own? Why set unrealistic precedents? People know music is projected by Speakers and that is quite acceptable. Go ahead and simplify to the extent that Venues start installing their own systems and offering little compensation to the "DJ" to come and operate it. (Some already do because DJs are showing more and more that they are nothing more than indispensable parts of the Entertainment equation) Then they complain why the Client want to pay a DJ $200.00 just to be a "warm body" behind the controls. Are you going to hide the camera too? ;)
 
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ahoustondj said:
Why is there a need to hide? Does a Band hide it's gear, a Pianist his Piano? Are you embarrassed of the Gear you own? Why set unrealistic precedents? People know music is projected by Speakers and that is quite acceptable. Go ahead and simplify to the extent that Venues start installing their own systems and offering little compensation to the "DJ" to come and operate it. (Some already do because DJs are showing more and more that they are nothing more than indispensable parts of the Entertainment equation) Then they complain why the Client want to pay a DJ $200.00 just to be a "warm body" behind the controls. Are you going to hide the camera too? ;)
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Brides love their decor and periodically, the subject comes up about speakers being ugly (which they are). I even had one bride last year who made a huge deal about not wanting the standard "two ugly speakers on sticks" setup. The Bose L1 sold that gig. My view, it's a legitimate complaint not to mention, if the fact that you can blend your speakers into the environment gains you more sales then it's a smart business move. Unlike you, my ego doesn't often get in the way of a sale.
 
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Brides love their decor and periodically, the subject comes up about speakers being ugly (which they are). I even had one bride last year who made a huge deal about not wanting the standard "two ugly speakers on sticks" setup. The Bose L1 sold that gig. My view, it's a legitimate complaint not to mention, if the fact that you can blend your speakers into the environment gains you more sales then it's a smart business move. Unlike you, my ego doesn't often get in the way of a sale.
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The reason why Brides don't like the "Ugly two Speakers on sticks" is because some DJs do not know how to properly deploy them. If all they see when they look over at the DJ Booth is a clump of gear and two speakers that look like Goalposts or supersized headphones, then of course, what is there to like? Lets face it, the copycats have made this setup their standard design, whether or not they have the necessary space to spread out, they still set up in a clump.
The Bose does have a clean look and I am certainly not going to dispute that fact but even with those, some chaps who use a pair spoil the looks by deploying them too close to each other and what is the result? Voila, fat goalposts sticks!
 
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Of course the Bose 802s are not ugly (cough, cough) ... the only non-ugly ones these days are the pencil thin ones. I don't think anyone here is ashamed of their gear .. but pragmatism says that brides want a different look. Corporate, parties, karaoke .. very different in that regard.
 
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rickryan.com said:
Brides love their decor and periodically, the subject comes up about speakers being ugly (which they are). I even had one bride last year who made a huge deal about not wanting the standard "two ugly speakers on sticks" setup. The Bose L1 sold that gig. My view, it's a legitimate complaint not to mention, if the fact that you can blend your speakers into the environment gains you more sales then it's a smart business move. Unlike you, my ego doesn't often get in the way of a sale.
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So she got two ugly speakers on floor stands ;)

I don't know where you guys find them in 30 years I've had one ask about aesthetics and she was more concerned about a table skirt than where or what the speakers were
 
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Jeff Romard said:
So she got two ugly speakers on floor stands ;)

I don't know where you guys find them in 30 years I've had one ask about aesthetics and she was more concerned about a table skirt than where or what the speakers were
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I agree that it's not very often the subject comes up, BUT, that doesn't mean the feature would not help you to distinguish yourself from the rest of the pack.
 
rickryan.com said:
Canute, I have a newsflash for you. Those 802s are butt-ugly.
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Beauty is in the eye is in the beholder. If your knowledge of speaker design and proper deployment is on the same level as your Photography then I can understand your sentiment.
BTW Even though the older Version is what I have, here is the new one. It is much more acceptable than the Vertical rectangular box. Plus, can your Box play in the rain, snow, cold, heat, take a fall at 8 feet and keep on playing?

Let me see how long it will take Bim & Bam to chime in! LOL
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Oh for sure I just fear with all the wireless devices available and small bandwidth spectrum you might create more problems than you solve....I wouldn't put a guarantee on it especially in the beginning

I must say there were several times the last few years I wished I had wireless speakers
 
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So she got two ugly speakers on floor stands ;)

I don't know where you guys find them in 30 years I've had one ask about aesthetics and she was more concerned about a table skirt than where or what the speakers were
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I agree Jeff. These new crop of DJs have totally turned away from the core of what is DJing. A lot of these comments are not from the Clients, they come from the DJs themselves. Instead of concentrating on their craft and skills they are busy worrying about things that have nothing to do about what a DJ is really supposed to do. Mix and play good music!
 
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ahoustondj said:
Eye is in the beholder. If your knowledge of speaker design and proper deployment is on the same level as your Photography then I can understand your sentiment.
BTW Even though the older Version is what I have, here is the new one. It is much more acceptable than the Vertical rectangular box. Plus, can your Box play in the rain, snow, cold, heat, take a fall at 8 feet and keep on playing?

Let me see how long it will take Bim & Bam to chime in! LOL
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Wow .. Canute's trying to get crafty now. Hiding text in his messages. Highlight his whole message from either post 29 or above if you dont believe me. It's located between 'keep on playing' and the picture of the speaker. The hidden part says.. "

ahoustondj said:
Let me see how long it will take Bim & Bam to chime in! LOL"
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For your information Canute, most passive speakers can and will take a little rain, snow, heat, cold .. and a fall .. and keep on rockin. This is not specific to Bose.
 
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rickryan.com said:
And you, the one who's always trying to ding others for not comprehending what you're trying to say..............I think you meant to type:

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

Those Bose are still butt-ugly.
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Done! Thanks! Some people call Picassos ugly and would much prefer a Elvis Poster on the wall! Wait!!! Elvis was from Tennessee.......
 
You don't know you're history, do you? Elvis Presley was from Tupelo, Mississippi. His family, not he, decided to relocate to Memphis when he was 13 (1948) and his music career began in 1954. Memphis was also home to alot of other musicians during that time (and still is).

To some people, Picasso is ugly. To some, Elvis is. To some, both are. You're point?
 
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I like them dogs playing poker ...
 
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rickryan.com said:
Those Bose are still butt-ugly.
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They are meant to be heard not seen. See how well this one blends in with the decor. It is not that Boxy Vertical Rectangular look that jumps out at you. These shots were taken by the Photographer not me. Photographers usually avoid taking shots of boxy speakers! He did not have a problem with the Bose. You almost have to look hard to discern them in the Photos.
See here: http://jose3053.zenfolio.com/p199283616/h3CFA13B8#h3cfa13b8
And here: http://jose3053.zenfolio.com/p199283616/h109609F5#h109609f5
 
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First you say that gear is not meant to be hidden as people are not idiots (Post #22)

ahoustondj said:
Why is there a need to hide? Does a Band hide it's gear, a Pianist his Piano? Are you embarrassed of the Gear you own? Why set unrealistic precedents? People know music is projected by Speakers and that is quite acceptable. ... Are you going to hide the camera too?
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Now you say 'They are meant to be heard not seen' (Post #39).

ahoustondj said:
They are meant to be heard not seen.
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Which is it? You can't have both.

You honestly believe that a photog is trying to not capture 'boxy' speakers but is trying to capture Bose? C'mon now. For either of those, any black cabinet would have blended in the same.
 
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