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Ausumm said:
They WON'T be searching for those.
They don't know what they are, because they are terms created by people in the industry.
"DJ" is what they know us as.

As for websites. All a potential client knows is what they see.
Pretty sure they have no idea when pictures were taken, when the website was updated, or what the resolutions of the pictures are.
A website can be masterfully created, but still have old pictures and content....
just as it can feature up to date, high resolution pictures, but still LOOK like a crappy website.
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I never said people will research those terms, but rather when generically searching for a dj, those terms in each djs name would stand out. If I am An upscale couple seeking an upscale wedding and I see “luxury Wedding dj” id feel like I met my perfect match... or if I have a barn wddding and come across a dj whose labeled as a barn wedding specialist... they’d stand out. On the flip side, mobile dj in general now just has an old negative feel to it. Something as simple as being called an event dj will certainly have a better appeal than someone that calls themselves a mobile dj.
 
djtaso said:
I never said people will research those terms, but rather when generically searching for a dj, those terms in each djs name would stand out. If I am An upscale couple seeking an upscale wedding and I see “luxury Wedding dj” id feel like I met my perfect match... or if I have a barn wddding and come across a dj whose labeled as a barn wedding specialist... they’d stand out. On the flip side, mobile dj in general now just has an old negative feel to it. Something as simple as being called an event dj will certainly have a better appeal than someone that calls themselves a mobile dj.
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But doesn't every wannabe call themselves a Luxury Wedding DJ and have specialties listing Barn Weddings (along with every other searchable type)?

You get traffic because you're good, get great WoM, and hit all the millennial buttons. The label stuff is window dressing.
 
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I have started to shift more into using "Wedding Entertainment" and the word "Experience or atmosphere"
 
I still think UBer DJ (Uncle Bob'er) is the next big thing.
 
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steve149 said:
I still think UBer DJ (Uncle Bob'er) is the next big thing.
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My opinion, if you're hanging your hat on being an expert beat-mixer in order to gain customers, you are GOING to be replaced by automated software. While beat-mixing skills are great to have (questionable as to the actual value in your own area), I think the smarter play is to develop the areas of business that a piece of software cannot replicate and replace.
 
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rickryan.com said:
My opinion, if you're hanging your hat on being an expert beat-mixer in order to gain customers, you are GOING to be replaced by automated software. While beat-mixing skills are great to have (questionable as to the actual value in your own area), I think the smarter play is to develop the areas of business that a piece of software cannot replicate and replace.
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No one is making it their selling point... but perhaps its better described this way. In the higher end markets, beatmatching is comparable to leather and/or heated seats... a luxury premium add on on most cars like honda's hyundais mazdas ford dodge, etc... but virtually a standard feature amongst luxury vehicles like audi bmw lexus. You don't ask for leather seats at an audi dealer, bc they all come with it.
 
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djtaso said:
I never said people will research those terms, but rather when generically searching for a dj, those terms in each djs name would stand out. If I am An upscale couple seeking an upscale wedding and I see “luxury Wedding dj” id feel like I met my perfect match... or if I have a barn wddding and come across a dj whose labeled as a barn wedding specialist... they’d stand out. On the flip side, mobile dj in general now just has an old negative feel to it. Something as simple as being called an event dj will certainly have a better appeal than someone that calls themselves a mobile dj.
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I did say "search" and not "research"....but I agree with your thinking.

It can also work against them.
If they see a result for a "luxury" DJ...they may think that he is too expensive.
If they see "barn wedding specialist"...they may think he's not the right fit for an upscale wedding.
If they see "Event DJ"....they may think he's not experienced in weddings.

"DJ" and "Mobile DJ" may SEEM old or dated...but they are still an exact match for ANY situation.
You're thinking like a DJ, and not like a person who has never had to find a DJ.
It may be a matter of you not being able to see things from the outside.
(this is my advertising experience talking. I spent my entire life looking at things from a customers point of view)

Okay, I'm done being Devil's Advocate. :djsmug:
 
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I didn't read the article because the header picture says it all.

We have had well over a decade of Reality Talent Shows and this is what the mobile DJ field is attempting to imitate. Yes - I said imitation.

The most revealing thing - there is no DJ in the picture.
 
FYI:
If you can't play an instrument you are not a musician, and if you can't beat mix you're not a Disc Jockey.

Radio Host and Disc Jockey are not the same thing.

The moment someone recorded a live musician "software" (content) was created. It's because of this software (recordings) that Disc Jockeys were able to displace musicians in a lot of areas. Today's computer software is simpy allowing IT people or virtually any end user to displace the Disc Jockey with their own preference.
 
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Why not just call yourself a "Expert human dance floor participation Coach via seamlessly mixed digital music"

If you don't beat match, or truly mix you could term yourself "Expert human dance floor participation Coach via continuously segued music"


...Cuz you know, the term Disc Jockey is not true any more unless you spin compact discs or records. :)

The term also states that is all you do. ...Play Music that came off of something in the shape of a disc.
 
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All this discussion about what constitutes a "REAL" DJ makes me laugh. [emoji1] It's SO typical of us human beings to want to differentiate ourselves from other human beings, and define ourselves in ways that (we CLAIM) prove we're superior to the other guys (who have the same profession/job title).[emoji1]

When I started (computer) programming back in the olden days (1970's), I started as a COBOL programmer. Other programmers claimed you were NOT a REAL programmer unless you programmed in Assembly Language.[emoji1] Now I took an Assembly Language class in college, and even learned to program by wiring a board, but WHY OH WHY would anybody want to do that when there are so many nice compiled languages that isolate you from the complexity (and dangers) of machine level programming?[emoji1] So the last programming language I used was C#, but according to one numbskull on this forum, I know nothing about "MODERN TECHNOLOGY".[emoji1]... So not only am I not a real programmer, I'm not a real DJ either if I don't beatmix.[emoji1]
 
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DJ Bobcat said:
All this discussion about what constitutes a "REAL" DJ makes me laugh. [emoji1] It's SO typical of us human beings to want to differentiate ourselves from other human beings, and define ourselves in ways that (we CLAIM) prove we're superior to the other guys (who have the same profession/job title).[emoji1]

When I started (computer) programming back in the olden days (1970's), I started as a COBOL programmer. Other programmers claimed you were NOT a REAL programmer unless you programmed in Assembly Language.[emoji1] Now I took an Assembly Language class in college, and even learned to program by wiring a board, but WHY OH WHY would anybody want to do that when there are so many nice compiled languages that isolate you from the complexity (and dangers) of machine level programming?[emoji1] So the last programming language I used was C#, but according to one numbskull on this forum, I know nothing about "MODERN TECHNOLOGY".[emoji1]... So not only am I not a real programmer, I'm not a real DJ either if I don't beatmix.[emoji1]
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Can I be a programmer too, since I can't be a DJ? I took Cobol, IBM Mainframe Assembler, Fortran, Lisp and C. I used to teach classes in Basic for years (HP Rocky Mountain Basic to be precise).
 
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Proformance said:
FYI:
If you can't play an instrument you are not a musician, and if you can't beat mix you're not a Disc Jockey.
Radio Host and Disc Jockey are not the same thing.
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That is so full of crap.
So what do you call all of those guys who played music at dances...
you know....BEFORE beat-mixing was even thought of?
DISC JOCKEYS!

And perhaps THESE DAYS, radio hosts do not actually use anything that is a disc....
but there are still plenty of radio people out there who have. They are called.....
DISC JOCKEYS!

I happen to fit into BOTH classifications.

But you are correct about musicians, though!
 
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DJ Bobcat said:
All this discussion about what constitutes a "REAL" DJ makes me laugh. [emoji1] It's SO typical of us human beings to want to differentiate ourselves from other human beings, and define ourselves in ways that (we CLAIM) prove we're superior to the other guys (who have the same profession/job title).[emoji1]

When I started (computer) programming back in the olden days (1970's), I started as a COBOL programmer. Other programmers claimed you were NOT a REAL programmer unless you programmed in Assembly Language.[emoji1] Now I took an Assembly Language class in college, and even learned to program by wiring a board, but WHY OH WHY would anybody want to do that when there are so many nice compiled languages that isolate you from the complexity (and dangers) of machine level programming?[emoji1] So the last programming language I used was C#, but according to one numbskull on this forum, I know nothing about "MODERN TECHNOLOGY".[emoji1]... So not only am I not a real programmer, I'm not a real DJ either if I don't beatmix.[emoji1]
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I don't think anyone made the claim as to what a real dj is. I think certain people took the conversation that way, but I believe on my end I never made such statements.

I started this whole beatmatch thing, as a question to rick asking based on his equipment how does he incorporate certain skills... the reason I mentioned that is because the higher end market does want something that is unique and different than the guy at $800. If they get the same level of skill as an $800 dj, or just hooking up itunes and putting auto fade (it has that feature), why should the other one charge more. Now yes demand, perceptions, presentation, etc all play a role... but they certainly expect a different level of skill as well... it is practically a given that a dj beatmatches around here after a certain price level.

It then became about do people even notice or care... now no ones gonna say do you beatmix... but its gonna stand out. Lets all be real for one second... If I and someone like rick (or anyone who claims on here to not incorporate beatmixing) happened to dj the same wedding, with the same exact dj setup (minus laptops and controllers), and utilize the same exact playlist, perhaps even in the same exact order... who do you think will bring more energy to the night strictly through music. You all see my wedding videos... At weddings I play a lot of the same songs as anyone else, and my mcing is minimal once dancing starts... so how do I get all that energy in videos that most others can't showcase... the way I play music is what I believe it to be, and the natural progression in energy I create throughout the night in a nonstop mixing fashion. Our technical skills are what allow us to subconsciously stand out... they don't know what you're doing but your music and mixing just sounds better.

Now I'm not claiming to be superior or anything, but I kinda get what a 30 something yr old couple is looking for... one because I am currently planning a wedding and I see firsthand the thought process a 20 something yr old bride has... and two because I spend a lot of time talking to my couples (3 hr meetings) to really understand the atmosphere theyre desiring and how what others do on here at their weddings is something that makes them cringe (again these are high paying clients, not budget conscious brides). The other part that I think is further proof of the combination of all of these things being successful, is that as of March 28th I already booked more events and have more revenue for 2018 than I did in 2017. I don't have to book another event for the next 8 months, and 2017 is beat in total events and revenue. It's not bragging, but when you give clients a product that is unique, impressive, and present it well, the results of your hard work will stand out without a doubt.
 
djtaso said:
... I don't think anyone made the claim as to what a real dj is. I think certain people took the conversation that way, but I believe on my end I never made such statements....
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REALLY???[emoji1]

Proformance said:
FYI:
If you can't play an instrument you are not a musician, and if you can't beat mix you're not a Disc Jockey.
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I'm not saying YOU said it, and maybe the exact term "REAL DJ" was not used in every instance, but it doesn't take much imagination to understand what a couple of the participants meant.[emoji1]

Congratulations on your success... sincerely.[emoji4][/QUOTE]
 
djtaso said:
I don't think anyone made the claim as to what a real dj is. I think certain people took the conversation that way, but I believe on my end I never made such statements.
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YOU didn't make the statement, your friend did.

This might sound harsh, but it's a slap in the face to us DJs who spend a lot of time mastering our mixes, getting super creative, and bringing life to the party thought our skills.

Don't advertise you offer DJ Services if you are making some announcements, and hitting play. YOU OFFER SOUND SERVICES with music. It's false advertising to say DJ, and flat out messed up to bring down the people who really try and bring real DJ skills to the table.

So I ask, how are you different than Uncle Bob? With how easy it is to get music, and to rent speakers, why in the world would someone pay $1,000+ to someone who isn't really offering anything, other than setting some equipment up?
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Just trying out the new logo ...

US³#wm

Uncle Steve's Sound Services with Music .... I figure the hashtag makes me look cooler and more DJ like ...
 
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I have been perfectly happy not doing over the top shows my average gig is probably $1200 ish two speakers,subs, a wash light set up and a mirror ball effect. takes 30 minutes for 1 person to set up and less than 20 to be loaded in the trailer and on the way home, Taso your set ups and performances are phenomenal but honestly at pushing 50 I don’t want to work that hard. My rates are a lot higher than most in my area, 30 mile radius, because of my reputation
 
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steve149 said:
Just trying out the new logo ...

US³#wm

Uncle Steve's Sound Services with Music .... I figure the hashtag makes me look cooler and more DJ like ...
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And I'll be UT#HAW²m - Uncle Tigger's Hundred Acre Wood - with music (pronounced yoo-tawm)
 
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