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ittigger

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You'd be surprised how often that script resolves the issue at question #2.

I answered the phone one night at a large multi-op supporting one of their DJs in the field:

DJ: I can't get the system to power up.
Me: Is everything plugged into the power strip in the rear of the rack?
DJ: Yes, I've got everything plugged into the strip.
Me: ...and you plugged the power strip into a wall outlet?
DJ: I can't. It's plugged into itself.

I realize people who are nervous often overlook the obvious but, juss because you CAN call for help, doesn't mean you should immediately want to.
You're basing your knowledge and experience of support on a single incident? I don't think anyone here is surprised that you're still looking for a loophole to try to make yourself right, but you're not. Customer service sucks anymore - and alot of it is because the level 1 'tech' knows very little and it takes you forever to reach someone with actual knowledge. Are there people where question @2 will solve the problem? Absolutely. Are there people with real problems that aren't getting resolved because it's 'someone else's fault'? Absolutely.
 

oldschool

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I run multiple drives and depending on the gig I'll use the appropriate drive. I usually take several and one master for every gig. HD's are getting ridiculously cheap not to have multiple drives set up and ready for any application you may need. But I do confess I don't do that part much anymore. I do the equipment and leave the spinning to someone else.
 

Proformance

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You're basing your knowledge and experience of support on a single incident? I don't think anyone here is surprised that you're still looking for a loophole to try to make yourself right, but you're not. Customer service sucks anymore - and alot of it is because the level 1 'tech' knows very little and it takes you forever to reach someone with actual knowledge. Are there people where question @2 will solve the problem? Absolutely. Are there people with real problems that aren't getting resolved because it's 'someone else's fault'? Absolutely.
Your opinion seems based on discontent and disillusionment. If you read the job description for level1 techs it requires literally NO training or expertise. The reason for that is the 80-20 rule. The best 80% of your customers will have an issue only 20% of the time, and the 20% of issues you see will be resolved by a basic low-tech script 80% of the time.

It's never someone else's fault. Everytime I've purchased a product with issues denied by the manufactuer I've discovered that had I done more research before buying I would have avoided that product. [OtsAv is a prime example: over-promising and under delivering all while denying a video overlay method in direct conflict with Miscrosoft parameter. 15 years later - and still waiting for the 2.0 product I purchased. :) ]
 

ittigger

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You seem to want to stir the pot - you must be bored.

My opinion is based on fact. You can call it whatever you like - but it's fact. You're right, level 1 tech's require minimal training, which is why I'm surprised you would think they know everything about a product. Thank you for underlining what I previously stated (and you fought).

You also underlined my point in being that the MFR is the one responsible for support. Many people call MS for support with a 3rd party product - which MS then refers you to. Those vendors will often blame MS. Add in multiple vendors - and you have a nice storm. Apples, because most are built with components from Apple, is a one stop shop for support (in most cases). As with the previous point, again - thank you for underlining what I previously stated (and you fought).
 
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Proformance

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You seem to want to stir the pot - you must be bored.

My opinion is based on fact. You can call it whatever you like - but it's fact. You're right, level 1 tech's require minimal training, which is why I'm surprised you would think they know everything about a product. Thank you for underlining what I previously stated (and you fought).

You also underlined my point in being that the MFR is the one responsible for support. Many people call MS for support with a 3rd party product - which MS then refers you to. Those vendors will often blame MS. Add in multiple vendors - and you have a nice storm. Apples, because most are built with components from Apple, is a one stop shop for support (in most cases). As with the previous point, again - thank you for underlining what I previously stated (and you fought).
Wait, is there like a subway-rail map I can use to follow your train of thought? So, this most recent stop is the station where everyone is a liar and the manufacturer is a victim of consumer aggression?

You give me way too much credit. Underlining anything you've stated would be a daunting task. :)
 

ittigger

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I never said everyone is a liar - you did, just now. I said they all say it's someone else's fault, which you agreed with. The level 1 tech, with minimal training, will gladly tell you that, which you also agreed with.
 

Ausumm

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I thought about sorting by genre, but I had albums with tracks of different genres, and I didn’t want to split the albums. I can sort by genre in my player software, so didn’t really seem necessary to have genre in the file structure.
Keeping albums together is great if you are searching for stuff to listen to at home.
But if you use the library for DJ gigs, it makes more sense to organize by genre.

But then again, I have my songs in different folders listed by genre...
BUT... I have rarely used them that way at a gig.
I just search for the artist or the song.

BTW
I had to re-tag my entire library a few years back. (about 38,000 songs)
I did a few hours a night, and it took almost a week.
I was using MP3 TAG, and re-naming files in huge batches, usually hundreds at a time.
 

DJ Bobcat

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Keeping albums together is great if you are searching for stuff to listen to at home.
But if you use the library for DJ gigs, it makes more sense to organize by genre.

But then again, I have my songs in different folders listed by genre...
BUT... I have rarely used them that way at a gig.
I just search for the artist or the song.

BTW
I had to re-tag my entire library a few years back. (about 38,000 songs)
I did a few hours a night, and it took almost a week.
I was using MP3 TAG, and re-naming files in huge batches, usually hundreds at a time.
Organizing by genre for my DJ music library is a good idea, just not sure it’s necessary since I can already search by genre. I’m sticking with Artist Name>Album>Track Title for now. I pretty much have the library reorganized. It took several weeks of doing it (much like you) an hour or so each day. I don’t have a current count of tracks, but the size (in KB’s) is much smaller.


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Ausumm

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Organizing by genre for my DJ music library is a good idea, just not sure it’s necessary since I can already search by genre. I’m sticking with Artist Name>Album>Track Title for now. I pretty much have the library reorganized. It took several weeks of doing it (much like you) an hour or so each day. I don’t have a current count of tracks, but the size (in KB’s) is much smaller.
I'm due for a good "cleaning" as well.
There are many files with spelling errors...
and a few that are NOT the original version, or a live version....
that I need to re-title to note the difference.
Plus a few that just need to go away.

As for size, my duplicate HD's are only 500 gigs....
and still not too full.
 

DJ Bobcat

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What's this thing you call a "C D" ???
LOL... Not sure why anyone would use CD’s anymore. A CD holds 700MB of data... about 80 minutes of audio. You could use a DVD and get as much as 8.5GB of storage, but for about $50, you can buy a 256GB thumb drive. You can put a WHOLE music library on a 256GB thumb drive. CD’s just don’t make a lot of sense anymore.


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oldschool

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LOL... Not sure why anyone would use CD’s anymore. A CD holds 700MB of data... about 80 minutes of audio. You could use a DVD and get as much as 8.5GB of storage, but for about $50, you can buy a 256GB thumb drive. You can put a WHOLE music library on a 256GB thumb drive. CD’s just don’t make a lot of sense anymore.


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You must have missed where I said it's for back up. You know, in case the PC crashes. What are you gonna make everyone wait till you re boot your PC?
 
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DJ Bobcat

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You must have missed where I said it's for back up. You know, in case the PC crashes. What are you gonna make everyone wait till you re boot your PC?
Sorry, bud... Didn't mean to offend. As a backup, I guess playing a CD will get you by... I use my iPad in a similar capacity. I wouldn't want to do an entire event with it though, so I have backup computers (in both my Large and Small systems). However, the Surface Pro (backup) in my Small System is still not quite a replacement I'd want to use for 3-4 hours of mixing. I'm still working on that.:djsmug:
 
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steve149

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I've done small events with an iPad .. I wouldn't necessarily WANT to do it for a larger one, but it could be done. The screen isn't a whole lot different than a small laptop and there are keyboard cases and controllers for it as well (à la your WeGo).
 

DJ Bobcat

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I've done small events with an iPad .. I wouldn't necessarily WANT to do it for a larger one, but it could be done. The screen isn't a whole lot different than a small laptop and there are keyboard cases and controllers for it as well (à la your WeGo).
I should have made it clear my iPad is a MINI. I could use a full size iPad (if I had one). The Mini is just too mini to use for more than a short time.


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steve149

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I should have made it clear my iPad is a MINI. I could use a full size iPad (if I had one). The Mini is just too mini to use for more than a short time.


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That I'll agree .. though my hot backup is usually a mini .. it has 128Gb. My full size iPad only has 32.