I scored a pair of almost new ETX15 tops at half price from a owner who thought his ETX were clipping too early, lucky for me he didnt read the manual and realize it was just a limiter light (not a clip light) that practically stays on by EV's design and is NOT a result of over driving. Its actually very difficult to make an ETX truly "CLIP" without intentionally over driving or abusing it. Well, his loss my gain
I know but the price and weight of those are way too much for me.ETX is supposed to be even better.
So, you are okay with a LIMIT light staying lit all night. Do you realize that the speaker is REACHING IT'S LIMIT when the light is on and the internal limiter is being activated? This is per the fine folks at EV. When a limit light is on, you are at the speaker's limit, per EV.
That is why so many people are ditching these speakers and going with something else.
To compare, I had my Bose speakers beside my EV's and while the bose were limiting left and right, I still had plenty of room on the Bose.
Poor design and people are dumping these speakers left and right for that reason.
So, you are okay with a LIMIT light staying lit all night. Do you realize that the speaker is REACHING IT'S LIMIT when the light is on and the internal limiter is being activated? This is per the fine folks at EV. When a limit light is on, you are at the speaker's limit, per EV.
That is why so many people are ditching these speakers and going with something else.
To compare, I had my Bose speakers beside my EV's and while the bose were limiting left and right, I still had plenty of room on the Bose.
Poor design and people are dumping these speakers left and right for that reason.
Freddie, thank you for enlightening me with gain structure.
Perhaps you should try the speakers yourself and state you own opinion and not copying and pasting from a manual.
100% agree. I think one of the issues some users may be having with the ETX is that they are confusing Limiting (ok) vs Clipping (bad). They are 2 totally different things.I actually have used the ETX12p speakers for weddings with subs and birthday parties without subs. They are fine speakers that go loud and sound fine when properly operated. Not my first choice, since I think there are some better options out there, but I don't agree that they are poorly designed. My point of quoting the manual is you shouldn't assume that just because these speakers say they are limiting that they are necessarily reaching their maximum SPL limit. It could also be user error overdriving the input.
I like the EV ETXs for live music .. IMO, there are better choices for dance music.I've been considering a speaker upgrade, and the EV's are high on the list to check out. But, the weight on the ETX line is amazing. The KW-181 is 88 pounds, with a single 18. The ETX 15 sub is 91 pounds!
Wild that it's so heavy. I'll still listen to them, but I wasn't expecting to move down in woofer size, and up in weight.
I like the EV ETXs for live music .. IMO, there are better choices for dance music.
I saw the havoc they wrecked on the ceiling tiles in their demo room. They were definitely killer subs.The speaker that is VERY heavy, but I was considering adding to my arsenal is the BassBoss 18. Not sure if you heard their stuff at the Expo, but their subs are the TRUTH. I'd only use one of those, but it's overkill for most of what I do.
The EKX 18 subs are only 72bls and I think they def do the job.I've been considering a speaker upgrade, and the EV's are high on the list to check out. But, the weight on the ETX line is amazing. The KW-181 is 88 pounds, with a single 18. The ETX 15 sub is 91 pounds!
Wild that it's so heavy. I'll still listen to them, but I wasn't expecting to move down in woofer size, and up in weight.
125lbs is a little more than I want to handle for load in/out.The speaker that is VERY heavy, but I was considering adding to my arsenal is the BassBoss 18. Not sure if you heard their stuff at the Expo, but their subs are the TRUTH. I'd only use one of those, but it's overkill for most of what I do.
One reason why I went with the 15, I think it is around 57lbsThe EKX 18 subs are only 72bls and I think they def do the job.
I saw the havoc they wrecked on the ceiling tiles in their demo room. They were definitely killer subs.
The ETX18 is a killer sub, but for some of us, the weight is a mitigating factor. I have to dead lift anything up into my SUV, so 115 pounds is out. I managed it with my old Yorkville Unity Subs because they were 40" tall and I could tilt them back and slide them up and in. If you have the right vehicle, they are certainly among the best in that class.Guys, I have the ETX 18's. If you feel they don't have enough power you are doing something wrong. Most school dances i don't even turn the subs up past 2 ( They go to 11 ). The bass is incredible. I would recommend the ETX powered 18's over ANY powered sub. While they are heavy , the wheels on them are so nice that they are easy to load in and out and roll wherever needed so the weight is hardly a factor for me. Plain and simple - ETX subs just perform and impress at every event
The ETX18 is a killer sub, but for some of us, the weight is a mitigating factor. I have to dead lift anything up into my SUV, so 115 pounds is out. I managed it with my old Yorkville Unity Subs because they were 40" tall and I could tilt them back and slide them up and in. If you have the right vehicle, they are certainly among the best in that class.