Purely and completely a perspective issue, both as it relates to friend and/or benefits.Is that like a "friend with benefits" ??
Purely and completely a perspective issue, both as it relates to friend and/or benefits.Is that like a "friend with benefits" ??
The last fight I got in the middle was a cake fight. No harm done, just a little icing on speaker pole
It's not my opinion. I've seen it happen in plenty of places. Things are going well and the place is making plenty of money. Then the place gets a new manager who decides to make changes. Some make very drastic changes and things slowly turn from good to bad. I can name at least 6 places off the top of my head that were doing and they made drastic changes. Those places have been gone for years or decades.Again, unless you can somehow identify who the 'wrong people' are without being prejudice or offensive, then you will have legal issues to deal with - and these alone will run most places out of business.
This is your opinion. Successful owners do not usually make irrational, not thought out changes.
Places don't tend to get a NEW manager if things REALLY are going well. My guess is it wasn't.It's not my opinion. I've seen it happen in plenty of places. Things are going well and the place is making plenty of money. Then the place gets a new manager who decides to make changes. Some make very drastic changes and things slowly turn from good to bad. I can name at least 6 places off the top of my head that were doing and they made drastic changes. Those places have been gone for years or decades.
anyhow my point is they make these major changes that turns things around for the bad. The great saying is if it ain't broke don't fix it.Places don't tend to get a NEW manager if things REALLY are going well. My guess is it wasn't.
My guess is they make changes because the client base shifts and they're trying to stay afloat. You have a vehicle .. check out some clubs AWAY from greater Newark.anyhow my point is they make these major changes that turns things around for the bad. The great saying is if it ain't broke don't fix it.
If it's the same place as this .. Union man wounded in shooting outside Irvington bar - (https://www.nj.com/essex/2017/01/union_man_wounded_in_shooting_outside_irvington_ba.html) .. it sounds like the place gets that way often. At least no one was shot.
The same place, same name was the site of a murder in the past...prejudice is not necessarily a bad thing, I'm prejudiced against any barrooms where murders occur.Places don't tend to get a NEW manager if things REALLY are going well. My guess is it wasn't.
Well because fights have nothing to do with the venue or area... guns getting brought inside and gangs... different story. The reason I don't think many of us make a big deal of a simple fight is because they happen everywhere. Wether it's a small town local bar, or a local club, or a premiere club where you need to spend $1000 for a table of 6 people, or VIP's spend $40k in a night... a fight or two will always break out, and yes that even happens in house music establishments. Have you visited any of the nightclubs in AC or places in NYC like 230 Fifth, LAVO, TAO, or Marquee where it costs $30+ just to get in? Well fights still happen there too.Things will be fine in the park. What surprises me is how some of you think nothing of a fight breaking out in a place. It's what some of you expect to happen at some time a place is in business. It does happen in some places at times. It's certainly something I'm not use to being around and not a place I would play at.
Things will be fine in the park. What surprises me is how some of you think nothing of a fight breaking out in a place. It's what some of you expect to happen at some time a place is in business. It does happen in some places at times. It's certainly something I'm not use to being around and not a place I would play at.
If they hired a new manager and made changes, then my guess is that it was broke - and they were trying to fix it. You have to look at things from their angle, not yours - and this is why these statements are your opinion. People rarely change things when they are successful.anyhow my point is they make these major changes that turns things around for the bad. The great saying is if it ain't broke don't fix it.
You, as a patron, can bring your business to any facility you want to. A facility cannot legally bar you from entering because you look like or are one of the 'wrong people'.The same place, same name was the site of a murder in the past...prejudice is not necessarily a bad thing, I'm prejudiced against any barrooms where murders occur.
Wanna bet they spend more money on typical, cheap-ass flyers than they do on legit security?
May I introduce you to:You, as a patron, can bring your business to any facility you want to. A facility cannot legally bar you from entering because you look like or are one of the 'wrong people'.
Private places are not required to prostrate themselve at the altar of the demands of the public.You can introduce me to them - but if any of them affect my legal rights, then you can't do squat with them. Additionally, the first time you 'miss' enforcing one of them, game on. Each and every one of those may also affect how much traffic you get - which affects income and profit. Typically, venues like this also have a higher cover at the door. People (including dj's) want to be paid. No draw, no pay.
Bars and most clubs are generally not considered private places.Private places are not required to prostrate themselve at the altar of the demands of the public.
You sound posed and ready to sue private individuals to enforce your personal expectations.
I wasn't checking the place out. I just saw this on Facebook.My guess is they make changes because the client base shifts and they're trying to stay afloat. You have a vehicle .. check out some clubs AWAY from greater Newark.
Law suit my azz. What would you rather have a lawsuit or your place being closed down for good.? Who told you that you can't be selective? It's your place to run how you see fit to keep the doors open.I totally get it (and agree) - but again, unless you can identify the 'wrong people' in a non discriminatory way, then you are headed for legal issues. You cannot keep anyone you label as 'tackheads' out of your bar. As a customer, I can go wherever I want. As a vendor, you cannot .. not serve me.
It sucks, but dem's de rulez.