Another dead Rock n Roller

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This was a warranty replacement for the original purchase neither made it to 6 months This one had far less than 200 pounds of subs on it while a 20 year old one parked next to it with way over 500 pounds on is stil perfectCFDD4DCC-5786-459F-973D-581E7E6E7843.jpeg
 
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I think the issue is with the newer ones. I have 5 Rock N Rollers. The oldest is the original. I’ve overload it big time & the only issue is the rear wheels loosing air. The next oldest broke & I had it weilded & a front wheel broke. After that I only used it for light loads. Other than that it’s just the rear wheels loosing air on the Larger ones. But you do have to be careful & conscious of the front wheels as it is a weak point. But nothing as large as the RNR folds so compact. That allows me to carried multiple carts. I do believe the carts broke without overloading or the front wheels gave out. When the one front wheel I had brold it wasn’t facing the correct direction I was pulling. The other commercial carts are definitely stronger & will last but are substantially larger folded up.
 
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I have an original R-N-R. Had a problem early on with air loss from the stem. They sent me 4 airless wheels. I replaced them and not a problem. I've overloaded it on several occasions so much so that it was very difficult for me to push or pull; however, that was at least 10 years ago. I made a platform from plywood and carpet that was the length I needed for my equipment. I had to wheel my Yorkville 18" sub 801P in to the venue because I couldn't lift it to place on the cart.
 
Ordered a magliner today
MagLiners are awesome! I heavily considered a MagLiner - but instead bought a Super Brute (by Brute) from Sams. I replaced the front wheels with heavy duty wheels - been using it since 06ish - absolutely no issues.
 
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I have an original R-N-R. Had a problem early on with air loss from the stem. They sent me 4 airless wheels. I replaced them and not a problem. I've overloaded it on several occasions so much so that it was very difficult for me to push or pull; however, that was at least 10 years ago. I made a platform from plywood and carpet that was the length I needed for my equipment. I had to wheel my Yorkville 18" sub 801P in to the venue because I couldn't lift it to place on the cart.
Why would you put that sub on a cart? I have that sub. Actually 2 of them. They are super heavy and thus they have wheels to move them around. Never put them on a cart ever. They have hadles on the back . So we just tilt the sub up and let the wheels go to work.
 
I looked online and saw the price. The hand truck I got cost less than $100 and it works fine.
 
Why would you put that sub on a cart?
Why would you put that sub on a cart?

If you're like me everything rolls in at one time on multiple carts. Even with our largest Video Dance Party systems a whole van load of equipment can be rolled to the freight elevator or room at one time. This allows a very quick load In & out. I've had subs with those tilt back wheels. It is the most inefficient way remove subs. Even placing them on a Dollies would be more efficient allowing you to stack other equipment on top. I personally push & pull two Roll N Roller carts when working by myself for trip in load ins. Remember time is money.
 
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My R10 has been great so far. I think I have had it 3 full years now.

It claims to handle up to 500 lbs, but I think the most I have had on it is maybe 260 or so lbs so I certainly don't put anything close to it's claimed limit on there.
 
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Why would you put that sub on a cart? I have that sub. Actually 2 of them. They are super heavy and thus they have wheels to move them around. Never put them on a cart ever. They have hadles on the back . So we just tilt the sub up and let the wheels go to work.
Not that I ever put the LS801P subwoofer on the cart. I was commenting it was heavy and would only wheel it in to the venue!
 
My R10 has been great so far. I think I have had it 3 full years now.

It claims to handle up to 500 lbs, but I think the most I have had on it is maybe 260 or so lbs so I certainly don't put anything close to it's claimed limit on there.

^^^^ I could have posted this.[emoji1] I have the same RnR cart, for about the same length of time, and never put more than 200 pounds of gear on it (plus or minus). Never had a problem with mine.

I load mine into the side door of my minivan and it rides cross-ways behind the front seats. I have a ramp, but normally I just lift one end and set it into minivan, then go around the other side and lift and push that end in the rest of the way, so I can’t put so much gear on it that I can’t lift it, unless I use the ramp.[emoji4]


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^^^^ I could have posted this.[emoji1] I have the same RnR cart, for about the same length of time, and never put more than 200 pounds of gear on it (plus or minus). Never had a problem with mine.

I load mine into the side door of my minivan and it rides cross-ways behind the front seats. I have a ramp, but normally I just lift one end and set it into minivan, then go around the other side and lift and push that end in the rest of the way, so I can’t put so much gear on it that I can’t lift it, unless I use the ramp.[emoji4]


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Here is my cart loaded up. I took the picture as I got back to my SUV loading out of the venue. I did a 8 hour...yes 8 hour (too long!) wedding ceremony and reception on Saturday night, and I managed to get everything on the cart for a single trip out! I had my Bose S1Pro in the back pack on my back. That was my ceremony speaker. I also had a 4 foot table that I managed to hold on top of the cart as I pushed it out. The venue installs a temporary ramp over a set of 4 stairs on the side of the building for load in/load out
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No Subs on this gig though.

This is about as bogged down as I had it for a single trip this year.

If you look at that fence to the left in the picture. That is a secret service entrance. This venue is next to the White House, and is very expensive to book for the day. I believe the rental fee is over $13,000 for the day, but I could be wrong...R10FullLoaded.jpg
 
Here is my cart loaded up. I took the picture as I got back to my SUV loading out of the venue. I did a 8 hour...yes 8 hour (too long!) wedding ceremony and reception on Saturday night, and I managed to get everything on the cart for a single trip out! I had my Bose S1Pro in the back pack on my back. That was my ceremony speaker. I also had a 4 foot table that I managed to hold on top of the cart as I pushed it out. The venue installs a temporary ramp over a set of 4 stairs on the side of the building for load in/load out
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No Subs on this gig though.

This is about as bogged down as I had it for a single trip this year.

If you look at that fence to the left in the picture. That is a secret service entrance. This venue is next to the White House, and is very expensive to book for the day. I believe the rental fee is over $13,000 for the day, but I could be wrong...View attachment 35618

Mine looks similar, but I haven’t taken a picture of mine in a long time... not since I ditched the speakers and subs in favor of the EVOX-8’s. They definitely lighten the load.


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Ahh, it was you, I seen your post in one of the DJ Facebook groups.

I don't recall which RnR cart I have , but's one that says it can hold 500lbs , not that I want to put 500lbs on it, I dont trust it.
 
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Why would you put that sub on a cart?


If you're like me everything rolls in at one time on multiple carts. Even with our largest Video Dance Party systems a whole van load of equipment can be rolled to the freight elevator or room at one time. This allows a very quick load In & out. I've had subs with those tilt back wheels. It is the most inefficient way remove subs. Even placing them on a Dollies would be more efficient allowing you to stack other equipment on top. I personally push & pull two Roll N Roller carts when working by myself for trip in load ins. Remember time is money.
How do you even lift that sub onto a cart? Trust me you maybe young now but later on you will regret doing all that heavy lifting when you don't have to. Save time my foot. We usually get to a venue way ahead of time so we're not in a mad rush. Explain to me in this case how time is money? Do you get paid more for a super fast load in or is the pay the same?
 
I've got a hand truck that converts to a flat bed from harbor freight. I've put both of my JBLs on at once they are 100 to 125 each plus other stuff on top and had no problems Yet
 
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I've got a hand truck that converts to a flat bed from harbor freight. I've put both of my JBLs on at once they are 100 to 125 each plus other stuff on top and had no problems Yet
Do those subs have wheels on them? I ask that question because I had a pair of Yamaha subs that didn't have wheels. I got rid of them some years back. They were great for small rooms and events.