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When they get them back to 19" rack width, instead of yardstick, I'll be interested.
 
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I'm ok with not rackmountable. My VCI isn't rack mountable. I don't think I would buy this though.
 
I suppose the point of the thread is that the Numark NV has been mapped to work with VDJ 8, and the screens look just like they do with Serato. That's cool. The NV has too many buttons, knobs, and sliders for me... I'd be overwhelmed[emoji1]... and it's LARGE!


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I like the 4 channels. I always said my next controller will have 4 channels. I will either get a used VCI (2 channel) or step up to the Pioneer SX (4 channel).
 
steve149 said:
When they get them back to 19" rack width, instead of yardstick, I'll be interested.
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While it's a bit off the OT. I saw this and had to respond. This has been a pet peeve of mine since I began my industry hiatus a few years ago...
While I like the NV and the Denon 6000s, I have to completely agree with this statement. Back when I was freelancing with Denon DJ, someone above Silvio (D&M) was telling me that the entire industry was moving to tabletop scratch & all in one units. While I agree that they have their market, myself and many others fought that a lot of mobiles still preferred 19" rack gear. Especially the higher end power users. I still know some who only switched because they were forced to by the manufacturers due to lack of options. This was something myself and a few others tried to get across to Denon during 2 separate focus groups (which also ironically helped spawn the 6000s).

Since that time I've seen the demise of the hd2500 and the hc4500. And I'm sorry the current offering of only one rackmount option with minimal features doesn't cut it. (D4500II) (Yes I do know that the 6000s are rackable, however at their core, they are designed as a tabletop set.) I also prefer the flexibility of individual units vs. all in ones although I like them for back-up or smaller rig situations.

That unit (the d4500II) is interesting but is more for those who came from basic decks. For those of us who used the features in decks like the hc4500, d9000, d2600, etc, we have been alienated by the manufacturers.

If it were my choice I would choose the setup I used to work on (dual hc4500s & a rane mp25) any day over any of the current offerings I see right now and for those who know me well, may not believe that I just said that.

Ok rant over... About 4 years of pent up frustration finally released. Lol you may have your thread back...

It is awesome that VDJ did get this working!
 
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While it's a bit off the OT. I saw this and had to respond. This has been a pet peeve of mine since I began my industry hiatus a few years ago...
While I like the NV and the Denon 6000s, I have to completely agree with this statement. Back when I was freelancing with Denon DJ, someone above Silvio (D&M) was telling me that the entire industry was moving to tabletop scratch & all in one units. While I agree that they have their market, myself and many others fought that a lot of mobiles still preferred 19" rack gear. Especially the higher end power users. I still know some who only switch because they were forced to by the manufacturers due to lack of options. This was something myself and a few others tried to get across to Denon during 2 separate focus groups (which also ironically helped spawn the 6000s).

That unit (the d4500II) is interesting but is more for those who came from basic decks. For those of us who used the features in decks like the hc4500, d9000, d2600, etc, we have been alienated by the manufacturers.
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Tabletops were inevitable to win out. DJing has evolved chiefly in to a consumer product line; while on the professional end - today's new DJs don't really identify with sound equipment. Todays DJ identifies with IT (Information Technology)
 
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Very true Proformance.
Many DJs were always sound challenged, but I saw myself as a sound guy and a DJ. The new status quo is about DJs being the next Tiesto or Deadmaus. Who play preproduced sets to thousands of people. The industry had changed so much.
 
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I am a Numark Guy, but I wouldn't bother with the NV. Another product geared to Club DJs? ...What is the advantage of it for most mobile guys out there?

I just can't get into the controllers with all the bells and whistles. I don't see myself seeing those features applied to the setting I am typically in (Wedding, and corporate).

Plus...Why can't we get "all in one" controllers with 3 Microphone inputs? Is it too much to ask? I know DJs have been asking for this for years, and the most we see are 2.
 
I can understand Ricky, but as a mobile I actually used all those high end bells & whistles. In fact back in the very early days, of the DJ Idea Sharing local live events in New England and during my time working with Denon, I demonstrated how many of those features could be used to make mobile DJs lives easier and how to use these features in an outside the box kinda way... Mind you the majority of my events were weddings. Many DJs I encountered never thought they needed those features and told me that after seeing what I was doing with them for introductions, cake cuttings, garter & bouquet etc, it blew them away.

But I strongly believe the most advantageous setups for mobiles are rackmount systems and the industry has either alienated or forced users to convert to tabletop or all in one systems. I think they have their place but for weddings, Ill take an hd 2500 or hc4500setup any day. And for those of use who want the bell & whistles, we just can't get that in a proper component rackmount form anymore.
 
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And as for the mic inputs, I completely agree But that's where highend rackmount components come in to play. More flexibility than that is intended with a one size fits the majority all-in-ones.
 
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I'm the same. I run 2 identical racks with the exception of the mixer (One has an A&H S2R and the other a Rane MP44). Once I heard Denon was ditching the HC4500 I b ought two new ones as back up as well as 2 D4500 MK2's.

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If Ineed more MIC inputs I bring my Yamaha mixer and hook into the S2R or MP44.
 
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That is almost exactly like my system DJ SVO Except DJM5000 Pioneer Mixer for me
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I'm the same. I run 2 identical racks with the exception of the mixer (One has an A&H S2R and the other a Rane MP44). Once I heard Denon was ditching the HC4500 I b ought two new ones as back up as well as 2 D4500 MK2's.

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If Ineed more MIC inputs I bring my Yamaha mixer and hook into the S2R or MP44.
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Love it, I run a DJM-5000 in my studio. I like it very much.
 
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Personally I've always been more a fan of the sound & flexibility that I get from Rane & A&H. I used Mp24s for years. I loved the Mp44. My favorite was the digital Mp25. The live board I worked on was an A&H Zed14. I loved that too. I also always liked the Xone boards. Personally I was never a fan of Denon or Pioneer boards. I hated the sound of the mic pres and didn't care for the feel by comparison.
 
They're great. that's why I bought the extra pair. Big fingers are not a problem ;)
 
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