Your prediction on this business in the next few years

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djtaso

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Just got off the phone with a professional I greatly respect. His opinion about the impact of vaccine documentation, cost of living, etc. is pretty bleak.

What is yours?
Future as in one year, 5yrs, ten years? Short term things are going to be insane in a good way! I only need 6 more events to finish 2022. 2023 is starting off strong. Prices are higher and no one’s flinching.

5yrs… a lot will have to do with the strength of the economy. The high end will always exist, but that average wedding may get affected if the economy is weak, especially when it comes to add ons. Weak economies reduce marriage rates too. So yeah it really is gonna be impacted by the strength of the economy.

ten years, who knows. In all honesty I don’t think much has changed from 10yrs Ago when I first started doing weddings. I changed, but not the industry. Sparklers, dancing on clouds, and feature packed photo booths are the trends now, but all trends come and go.
 
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I think it depends on how bad 2022 is with the supply chain issues, Covid, massive inflation, out of control immigration into the United States etc.

The younger generation isn't rushing to go get married. Less and less weddings per 1,000 population are occuring every year.

I do not see myself being a Full time only DJ again in the future. I think moving forward I will have a full time job, or at least a good part time job in addition to being a DJ.

Also, I have noticed that this year has BEEN TERRIBLE for trying to buy Up Lights. Very limited quantities available. Most models are out of stock. I think it will be a long while before equipment is in abundance out there again. Also, manufacturers seem to have a smaller pool of customers in recent years. Young people are not flocking into the DJ industry, and we are becoming an older industry full of older jocks. I also believe we will continue to see more leave the industry over the next 5 years as they retire and call it quits from being a DJ.

I think I will still be booking events 5 years down the road, but I don't think I will be doing more than 20-30 events per year in the future. ...And I really don't desire to do more than 30 moving forward.
 
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I think it depends on how bad 2022 is with the supply chain issues, Covid, massive inflation, out of control immigration into the United States etc.

The younger generation isn't rushing to go get married. Less and less weddings per 1,000 population are occuring every year.

I do not see myself being a Full time only DJ again in the future. I think moving forward I will have a full time job, or at least a good part time job in addition to being a DJ.

Also, I have noticed that this year has BEEN TERRIBLE for trying to buy Up Lights. Very limited quantities available. Most models are out of stock. I think it will be a long while before equipment is in abundance out there again. Also, manufacturers seem to have a smaller pool of customers in recent years. Young people are not flocking into the DJ industry, and we are becoming an older industry full of older jocks. I also believe we will continue to see more leave the industry over the next 5 years as they retire and call it quits from being a DJ.

I think I will still be booking events 5 years down the road, but I don't think I will be doing more than 20-30 events per year in the future. ...And I really don't desire to do more than 30 moving forward.
See the thing is with the supply issues, most of 2022 is already booked, so it’s not gonna affect much in that regard. Beyond that is a different story. The lack of supply of DJ items is going to affect newcomers in the industry as well as those seeking to up their game… which will help established pros. Likewise, lack of newer djs in general make the established djs worth even more. Djs will still be needed in 5-10yrs no matter what
 

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The situation with the gear issue is that for over a year things were shut down. So need to mass produce gear that wasn't being sold and with DJs not working for a good while wasn't making money to buy gear they wanted. There will always be a need for a DJ going forward to do events. I'm still hanging in there at age 63 and have no thoughts of retiring. Even when things were shut down I felt that way. The thing now is how much will this business come back to being normal again? Now there are those who are still in panic mode over this virus thing. I have never been in panic mode once over this since it was released. The issue is about how many in this business have patience in these times. Those who have patience will figure a way around the issues at hand. Just doing what Billy Joel said, Keeping The Faith or the Isley Brothers Don't Let Up. Another one I just thought of D Train Keep On.
 
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I think it depends on how bad 2022 is with the supply chain issues, Covid, massive inflation, out of control immigration into the United States etc.

The younger generation isn't rushing to go get married. Less and less weddings per 1,000 population are occuring every year.

I do not see myself being a Full time only DJ again in the future. I think moving forward I will have a full time job, or at least a good part time job in addition to being a DJ.

Also, I have noticed that this year has BEEN TERRIBLE for trying to buy Up Lights. Very limited quantities available. Most models are out of stock. I think it will be a long while before equipment is in abundance out there again. Also, manufacturers seem to have a smaller pool of customers in recent years. Young people are not flocking into the DJ industry, and we are becoming an older industry full of older jocks. I also believe we will continue to see more leave the industry over the next 5 years as they retire and call it quits from being a DJ.

I think I will still be booking events 5 years down the road, but I don't think I will be doing more than 20-30 events per year in the future. ...And I really don't desire to do more than 30 moving forward.
I've probably interacted with you on one board or another for the past 8-10 years at this point. Not once has a question like this come up that you've ever had a positive response. You're the Eeyore of DJs when it comes to outlook on the world.

I think, like I often do, that talented people will prevail. Whether the industry grows or shrinks as a whole is almost 100% irrelevant to a small operator in this world. If I were Pioneer DJ I might care about stuff like that at a macro level, but as a small DJ operator I simply don't. I think I'll be able to find enough clients to work with that want a service I can provide. Beyond that... there's little I can do.
 

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I think, like I often do, that talented people will prevail. Whether the industry grows or shrinks as a whole is almost 100% irrelevant to a small operator in this world.
Those who have an established brand of service & a target market (like you and Taso) will continue to succeed. Multi DJ Ops & Agencies will continue to do what they do. Technology will continue toward the wireless end, and Mobile DJs will continue to debate whether they are full-time or part-time and how much they are really worth. :djsmug:
 

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I don't have a say in this as I am retired from this biz, but IMHO, I see technology taking over many events and minimizing the need for an actual human DJ. Feel free to bash me. :pillyes:
 

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I don't have a say in this as I am retired from this biz, but IMHO, I see technology taking over many events and minimizing the need for an actual human DJ. Feel free to bash me. :pillyes:
Having an opinion is never something you should be bashed for. But for that to be true, we have to be providing something so basic that a spotify playlist and bluetooth speaker is adequate enough to replace the DJ. And for a DJ doing that type of work and no more... you might be right.

If our only value to the client is that our speakers get louder, we are an exceptionally easy to replace commodity and will be seen and priced as such. If we are adding value, reducing stress, solving problems, and providing something special... I think there is a market for that and always will be in some form or another.
 

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But for that to be true, [technologic displacement] we have to be providing something so basic that a spotify playlist and bluetooth speaker is adequate enough to replace the DJ. And for a DJ doing that type of work and no more... you might be right.

If our only value to the client is that our speakers get louder, we are an exceptionally easy to replace commodity and will be seen and priced as such. If we are adding value, reducing stress, solving problems, and providing something special... I think there is a market for that and always will be in some form or another.
I think when you combine AI mixing with a playlist the creative value of a DJ won't be there in the future. The future is in stage talent, emcees and actual performers.

There are no live bands backing the contestants on the TV talent shows, no DJs, etc. The utility of a DJ has been the necessary part of keeping that role alive and as that utility vanishes so too, will the viability of performing that role. I can easily see a future filled with actors "playing the role" of the DJ. :)

I had to withdraw from a gig while I had Covid, but the mainline act was the Rolling Stones - and even there you're talking about something like two original members backed by a cover band. So, we're already well into the realm of "actors" replacing original talent.
 
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I don't have a say in this as I am retired from this biz, but IMHO, I see technology taking over many events and minimizing the need for an actual human DJ. Feel free to bash me. :pillyes:
No bashing here. There are those who will not book a DJ because of the modern technology and just don't want to spend money on a DJ. There's not much difference from someone looking to book a DJ for a crazy low price. For example, my DJ friend referred us to a guy living in I believe Englewood, NJ or around that area. I don't remember the kind of event he was having at his house. I remember he was looking for a DJ to do the event for $150. No way Jose! I don't know who or if he got a DJ to do the event. I just know it wasn't us. People like that are never going anywhere. That's how much I was getting paid when I played in the PPL and it was not that far from where I live. That for me was just gas money and something to eat.

What it comes down to is you and what you're doing to keep yourself active and busy in this business. If you do nothing then nothing is going to happen. I look at it this way. You can pray to God all you want saying you need a job. If you just pray and don't do a thing to get a job then you will get nothing. At some point you may need to reinvent yourself and change what you're doing with your business. Some things have changed and that means if things are not working for you right now, you may need to make adjustments. One thing that technology can't do is read a crowd and know what to play or what not to play at a certain time. A DJ can make or break an event depending on what music they decide to play and when to play what.
 
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I remember when people thought that digital music would kill this industry.
It has not.
I think that it due in part to some very talented DJ's who make hiring one worth the cost.
Remember when they said that self checkouts at the grocery store...
or that ordering kiosks at fast food joints would eliminate jobs?
(and now we can't find enough workers, even at an above average wage)
Hell, some of can remember when people worried that computers and robots would replace us all.
I'll agree with Bob.
"The future is in stage talent, emcees and actual performers."
 

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I think when you combine AI mixing with a playlist the creative value of a DJ won't be there in the future. The future is in stage talent, emcees and actual performers.

There are no live bands backing the contestants on the TV talent shows, no DJs, etc. The utility of a DJ has been the necessary part of keeping that role alive and as that utility vanishes so too, will the viability of performing that role. I can easily see a future filled with actors "playing the role" of the DJ. :)

I had to withdraw from a gig while I had Covid, but the mainline act was the Rolling Stones - and even there you're talking about something like two original members backed by a cover band. So, we're already well into the realm of "actors" and replacing original talent.
Those DJs who have real true talent will last will be still finding gigs to do. Those who don't will be exposed and not last long normally. There's one that I heard play once. He was the worst I ever heard. When I left the club I was cursing up a storm. He's been in business a long time and as horrible as he is I can't see how he's been in business for such a long time. He was beyond sucking. If I was the owner and paid him I would give him a half a bag of weed and tell him to never come back. He didn't last long there and every place he plays at he doesn't last long.
 
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I remember when people thought that digital music would kill this industry.
It has not.
It has if you properly characterize the roles: Today's DJ is more likely to be an IT person moonlighting with a preferred App.

I think that it due in part to some very talented DJ's who make hiring one worth the cost.
The emcee or entertainer is worth the cost - the DJ is mostly interchangeable.
Hence:

I'll agree with Bob.
"The future is in stage talent, emcees and actual performers."
 
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I do not see myself being a Full time only DJ again in the future. I think moving forward I will have a full time job, or at least a good part time job in addition to being a DJ.
The better question to ask one's self is: "Why am I still a DJ ? " After years of working events - why am I still in the same position ? Essentially why is this a job rather than a career?

Also, I have noticed that this year has BEEN TERRIBLE for trying to buy Up Lights. Very limited quantities available. Most models are out of stock.
What has "buying" (anything) got to do with being a DJ or a career in the event industry? (Nothing, actually.)
New lights are not an "investment" - training and new skills are the things to be collected.

Getting lights to any event anywhere in the country is easy. Finding someone with the creative and technical talent to WOW people with them is much more of a challenge right now.
 
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The better question to ask one's self is: "Why am I still a DJ ? " After years of working events - why am I still in the same position ? Essentially why is this a job rather than a career?



What has "buying" (anything) got to do with being a DJ or a career in the event industry? (Nothing, actually.)
New lights are not an "investment" - training and new skills are the things to be collected.

Getting lights to any event anywhere in the country is easy. Finding someone with the creative and technical talent to WOW people with them is much more of a challenge right now.
They are if you know how to sell them so you get your money back for what they cost you and you can make a profit.
 

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They are if you know how to sell them so you get your money back for what they cost you and you can make a profit.
There are "uplights" in front of countless residential homes all across the country in anticipation of Halloween, to be followed of course by the Christmas Holiday lighting spectacles.

How would your order of cheap Chinese light products any different?
 
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I don't remember the kind of event he was having at his house. I remember he was looking for a DJ to do the event for $150. No way Jose!
Can you rent enough gear to do a gig for $150 in NJ? Here I can for that or a little less I suspect it's higher there. Your time has to be worth more than the cost of gear rental
 
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There are "uplights" in front of countless residential homes all across the country in anticipation of Halloween, to be followed of course by the Christmas Holiday lighting spectacles.

How is your order of cheap Chinese light products any different?
What are you talking about!? What cheap Chinese lights do I have? Stop assuming things.