Wireless mics

DJ Bobcat

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Nov 8, 2014
10,528
Oklahoma City
I had an S-10, a Beretta, 2 Monte Carlo's (which came through GM's BEST QA plant) and a Toyota Tacoma. The Tacoma outlived all 4 Chevy's - and was still asking for more. Maintenance was also cheaper on my Tacoma than on any other vehicle. That truck went 300k before Toyota bought it back from me (frame perforation) for a really nice price. My Chevy's - each one started needing major work at 70k. This DOES equate to better in my book.
Toyota’s quality has fallen off a little in recent years, while Chevy’s has improved. I would not say Chevy is as good, but not as much separation as ten years ago. I never kept cars long enough to see them begin to fail, EXCEPT, my 1997 Ford F-150 4x4. It wasn’t garaged for most of the time I owned it, and still not one sign of rust. It was NOT an expensive truck. I had it 17 years and it was still like driving a new truck when I traded it in on my minivan. I regret having traded it, but with two other vehicles, I could not see any way to arrange the driveway parking situation to make room for a fourth vehicle, and I couldn’t figure out how to use it for hauling DJ gear. A lot of how long vehicles last depends a lot on how well it’s cared for. I ALWAYS have scheduled maintenance performed on all my vehicles.
 
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ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
12,520
Western Maryland
I haven't seen Chevy's quality improve. From what I've seen, it's the exact same as it's been.

Regardless, as even you have stated, there is better - and people are willing to pay for this better.
 

DJ Bobcat

DJ Extraordinerror
Nov 8, 2014
10,528
Oklahoma City
I haven't seen Chevy's quality improve. From what I've seen, it's the exact same as it's been.

Regardless, as even you have stated, there is better - and people are willing to pay for this better.
Well... If you believe JD Power, the 2018 Chevy Silverado was #1 in quality for large light duty pickups, followed by the Ford F-150, GMC Sierra 1500, RAM 1500, then the Toyota Tundra.


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DJ Bobcat

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Proformance

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Nov 6, 2006
3,252
I think I've spent less repair & service money on my Chevy Silverado over the last 120,000 miles than in all other cars I've owned - combined!
 

steve149

Veni, Vidi, Lusi
Sep 26, 2011
31,587
Prospect, CT
LOL... Well that article does not prove that JD Power’s ratings are not legit, and because the article was written by Consumer Reports, it comes across as more than a little biased. But believe what you want.


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I'm a CR guy .. I don't think they are unbiased, but they also don't take any advertising from any company .. unlike their counterpart "Consumers Digest".

You can see other opinions here: Auto Awards Clouded by Fees - (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703404004575198322978785374)
 

DJ Bobcat

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Nov 8, 2014
10,528
Oklahoma City
I'm a CR guy .. I don't think they are unbiased, but they also don't take any advertising from any company .. unlike their counterpart "Consumers Digest".

You can see other opinions here: Auto Awards Clouded by Fees - (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703404004575198322978785374)
OK... Just looked at Consumer Reports rankings of 2019 full size pickups, and they are nearly the same as JD Power. Only difference is they have the Nissan Titan above the RAM, but Toyota is still after RAM. Silverado is still at the top, followed by the F-150.
 

Jeff Romard

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Lets look at vehicles - ford, chevy, dodge - which is best? Having owned them all, there is little difference in 'quality' or dependability or any of that. Some years one is better than the others, but generally there is no difference.

toyota, nissan...they make trucks too. Are tehy any better? Better how?.
having been in the Taxi business I've had more cars than I can count and most went on to be high mileage. I've seen some well over 700,000 miles and still running good and some gone at 150,000.

Comparing apples to apples Caprice to Crown Victoria. The Caprice went farther but day to day repairs were less expensive on the Crown Vic. As far as vans went the Dodge outlived and outworked any others we had including Fords Chevs and Toyota. They were less expensive to maintain too
 

ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
12,520
Western Maryland
Well... If you believe JD Power, the 2018 Chevy Silverado was #1 in quality for large light duty pickups, followed by the Ford F-150, GMC Sierra 1500, RAM 1500, then the Toyota Tundra.
I don't believe JD Power. I believe user experience. One thing they're not taking into consideration is used value. Toyota's really do hold their value. IMO, they pick on Tundra because it really hasn't changed much - and that is Toyota's claim to fame. They build reliability, they're not after the latest gizmo's.

One of Toyota's best engines was the 4 cylinder 22RE. Why? Because they stuck it in everything. They weren't coming up with 74 different designs and trying to figure out how to make them all work.

When the 2nd generation Tundra came out, Ford specifically attacked Tundra for using a C Frame, saying it's weaker than theirs. Look at the latest Ford trucks and see what type of frame they have. ;).

While you're at it, take a look at what type of frame big rigs have. ;)

IMO's: I like what Dodge is doing - but their powertrains suck. Ford has too many engine issues - and now body weld issues (specifically body side to body center welds). Chevy, too many electrical and 'cheap feel' issues.
 
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DJ Bobcat

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Nov 8, 2014
10,528
Oklahoma City
I don't believe JD Power. One thing they're not taking into consideration is used value. IMO, they pick on Tundra because it really hasn't changed much - and that is Toyota's claim to fame. They build reliability, they're not after the latest gizmo's. When Tundra came out, Ford specifically attacked Tundra for using a C Frame, saying it's weaker than theirs. Look at the latest Ford trucks and see what type of frame they have. ;)

While you're at it, take a look at what type of frame big rigs have. ;)
Like I said in a response to Steve, if you don’t believe JD Power, you can check Consumer Reports, which has almost the exact same rankings, except CR has the Nissan Titan following the GMC Sierra and ahead of the RAM, but all are still higher than the Tundra. The small trucks follow similar rankings... Tacoma last.


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ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
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Western Maryland
I never said CR, I said user experience - and if you base it off user experience, Tacoma is the best, hands down. Tacoma also outsells them all. It is the number 1 compact truck. Tacoma had a redesign recently, so they're haven't gotten to the top of their game yet .. but they'll get there. If you watch the sales, you'll never see a Tacoma at 0% interest - because they know they'll sell. The only competition the Tacoma really has is the Chevy Colorado Z series and while Chevy has performed miracles with this truck, it's no Tacoma.

*Shoppers who plan to venture far off the beaten path can look to the specially equipped off-road-performance models offered by the Chevrolet Colorado (the ZR2 and new ZR2 Bison) and Toyota Tacoma (the TRD Off-Road and TRO Pro).*

If it's so bad, I wonder why it and the Colorado are the only recommendations.

*The Tacoma is one of the most capable pickup trucks on the road regardless of size. For truck shoppers wanting to go as far off the beaten path as possible, the Tacoma will be a great choice. It'll also tow up to 6,800 pounds, and it enjoys a great reputation for high resale value and aftermarket parts support.*

Hmmm .. one of the most capable .. but it's at the bottom of the list? Does that even make sense?

While Tundra is not the king of the full size market (and Toyota has no intent on being #1 of that market), they don't spend alot of time in the shop and the owners love their trucks. They just work.
 
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DJ Bobcat

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Nov 8, 2014
10,528
Oklahoma City
I never said CR, I said user experience - and if you base it off user experience, Tacoma is the best, hands down. Tacoma also outsells them all. It is the number 1 compact truck. Tacoma had a redesign recently, so they're haven't gotten to the top of their game yet .. but they'll get there. If you watch the sales, you'll never see a Tacoma at 0% interest - because they know they'll sell. The only competition the Tacoma really has is the Chevy Colorado Z series and while Chevy has performed miracles with this truck, it's no Tacoma.

*Shoppers who plan to venture far off the beaten path can look to the specially equipped off-road-performance models offered by the Chevrolet Colorado (the ZR2 and new ZR2 Bison) and Toyota Tacoma (the TRD Off-Road and TRO Pro).*

If it's so bad, I wonder why it and the Colorado are the only recommendations.

*The Tacoma is one of the most capable pickup trucks on the road regardless of size. For truck shoppers wanting to go as far off the beaten path as possible, the Tacoma will be a great choice. It'll also tow up to 6,800 pounds, and it enjoys a great reputation for high resale value and aftermarket parts support.*

Hmmm .. one of the most capable .. but it's at the bottom of the list? Does that even make sense?

While Tundra is not the king of the full size market (and Toyota has not intent on being #1 of that market), they don't spend alot of time in the shop and the owners love their trucks. They just work.
Quite a few new options for smaller trucks in 2019... Chevy Colorado, Ford Ranger, GMC Canyon, Jeep Gladiator, Honda Ridgeline, Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma. I wish Jeep had a 2 door Gladiator, because I’d buy one in a NY minute.



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IceBurghDJ

DJ Extraordinaire
Apr 17, 2015
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I disagree.
A toyota camry is a fine car - it's a shitty truck
I have an F350 - great truck, really shitty car.

If I'm gonna have Aretha sing then, yes, I want the best mic I can get. If Drunk Uncle is gonna give a toast..not so important.

Many poopoo cheaper gear without ever using it, seeing it, etc. "It's not $1000, it must be shit"...

A coworker on my bus job DJs with gemini...he's a cheap mofo, won't buy new anything and if forced buys the cheapest - no wireless mic at all for him. And the gemini have been working for him and sound good. For small weddings and other events that I've been at for one reason or another that he's worked.

Not MY choice,but works for him it seems

If you're going to use words like "reality" then maybe the thing to look at is how far off topic you are.

There are shitty mics and there are good mics - that's reality.
It's your pig, use as much lipstick as you'd like.
 
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steve149

Veni, Vidi, Lusi
Sep 26, 2011
31,587
Prospect, CT
I disagree.
A toyota camry is a fine car - it's a shitty truck
I have an F350 - great truck, really shitty car.

If I'm gonna have Aretha sing then, yes, I want the best mic I can get. If Drunk Uncle is gonna give a toast..not so important.

Many poopoo cheaper gear without ever using it, seeing it, etc. "It's not $1000, it must be shit"...

A coworker on my bus job DJs with gemini...he's a cheap mofo, won't buy new anything and if forced buys the cheapest - no wireless mic at all for him. And the gemini have been working for him and sound good. For small weddings and other events that I've been at for one reason or another that he's worked.

Not MY choice,but works for him it seems
Actually, if I'm going to have Aretha sing, the mic really doesn't matter these days, though it does need underground capability ...

And if drunk Uncle is going to toast, I want my mic to be able to take the abuse AND sound as good as possible.
 

camarofleet

Active DJ
Jun 26, 2018
88
32
As you may have heard, I use Sennheiser ew 100 series mics. Mostly G3 these days but still have some g2's and some old g1. Working flawlessly.
But just looking down the road a bit. Should I be looking to get out of UHF? Digital just as good? Better?

Are there a few windows in the 600 spectrum I'll be able to use?
Right now, half of my mics are in 620-662 and other half in 516-558

What I love about my mics- scans for open channels and stores them. Then with a button press will sync with transmitter. Always crystal clear. Units typically about $600-$700 new these days. I buy used a lot and get them more in $400 range.

Love the battery powered receivers too. Half of mine are battery powered. Love that I can mix and match my transmitters and receivers, so if I need all battery power, no problem, or if I want plug in receiver but a lav mic, no problem

What systems should I be thinking about for the future? 75% of our events is just 1 mic needed and a back up.

Ceremonies will typically add 2 more mics. Sometimes 3. 4 total is typically the max we do at a show. And that's rare.
I'm using mostly Audio Technica System 10 pro these days - I buy them directly from the manufacturer in Stow.

Positives:
-Economical
-Decent range
-True Diversity/No noisey dropout
-Two receiver modules fit in the receiver unit in a half rack space
-Battery powered receivers available (I use these for ceremonies)

Negatives:
-These things royally rip through batteries worse than any other mic system I have owned
-Cell phone nearby=interference (remember to have officiant NOT put phone near belt pack or set your phone by your receiver)