Why did you buy the speakers you bought to DJ with?

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I bought my Evox-12s looking for a great sounding speaker system that was capable of handling the majority of my work. They do just that. Not the perfect rig for every gig, but they work for me most nights of the year.

I'm a big believer in having a right sized rig that can handle most of my gigs instead of carrying around a severely oversized system that can handle everything but never or rarely gets used to capacity.

In the rare instance that my main system isn't enough, I can add units, and then borrow/rent when the situation calls for it. But main system, which is pretty light, handles or is even overkill for 97% of our gigs.
 
I'm a big believer in having a right sized rig that can handle most of my gigs instead of carrying around a severely oversized system that can handle everything but never or rarely gets used to capacity.

In the rare instance that my main system isn't enough, I can add units, and then borrow/rent when the situation calls for it. But main system, which is pretty light, handles or is even overkill for 97% of our gigs.
Same here .. I keep contemplating getting another "large" system, but the reality is my EVOX will handle everything I do, save an occasional school function.
 
Let's review:
SIX dual 18's....that's TWELVE 18" drivers in SIX cabinets.
FOUR 3-way hipaks....
About 12,000 watts.
The big system is TWELVE dual 18's....so 24 18" drivers and TWELVE 3 way hipaks and about 30,000 watts.

I never did that big a show at schools, but I sure miss bigass fun school dances.....
 

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Same here .. I keep contemplating getting another "large" system, but the reality is my EVOX will handle everything I do, save an occasional school function.

I have the third EVOX-8, so I have more than I’ll likely ever need. BUTT...[emoji1]... I can see a couple of white J8’s in my future.[emoji1]


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I have the third EVOX-8, so I have more than I’ll likely ever need. BUTT...[emoji1]... I can see a couple of white J8’s in my future.[emoji1]


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Anything white that I touch, rarely stays white. No white anything in my future.
 
Let's review:
SIX dual 18's....that's TWELVE 18" drivers in SIX cabinets.
FOUR 3-way hipaks....
About 12,000 watts.

The big system is TWELVE dual 18's....so 24 18" drivers and TWELVE 3 way hipaks and about 30,000 watts.

Val - I don't want to derail this thread, so maybe taking this somewhere else is more appropriate. But I'm curious if you and your team have looked at modernizing that lighting rig. Those par cans are so energy thirsty, I'd think LED fixtures would be a huge power/weight/set up time savings for you.
 
DERAIL IT???[emoji1787]... This thread was DERAILED from the git-go... Let her derail it.[emoji3]

I think if you derail a derailed thread, it then becomes RAILED.[emoji854]
Even Mix started it with "This topic is not just about speakers."
 
Val - I don't want to derail this thread, so maybe taking this somewhere else is more appropriate. But I'm curious if you and your team have looked at modernizing that lighting rig. Those par cans are so energy thirsty, I'd think LED fixtures would be a huge power/weight/set up time savings for you.


They do, but the money involved with replacing something that works may not be worth it. With everything they bring in, they would still need to deal with getting enough power, and it does have a HUGE WOW Factor. Something I wrote about for Mobile Beat Mag back in the 80's BTW...
 
I never did that big a show at schools, but I sure miss bigass fun school dances.....

it was before my Lasik and my glasses were on sideways... lol
 
Let's review:
SIX dual 18's....that's TWELVE 18" drivers in SIX cabinets.
FOUR 3-way hipaks....
About 12,000 watts.

The big system is TWELVE dual 18's....so 24 18" drivers and TWELVE 3 way hipaks and about 30,000 watts.
Sorry I was wrong. Again that small system to me should be through the roof! I'll trade you everything we have for the small setup except the controllers and laptops with the HD's. I wish I could hear how the small setup sounds.
 
Val - I don't want to derail this thread, so maybe taking this somewhere else is more appropriate. But I'm curious if you and your team have looked at modernizing that lighting rig. Those par cans are so energy thirsty, I'd think LED fixtures would be a huge power/weight/set up time savings for you.

Val could correct me on this but I think once you get it down to a habit in a show that big the time savings would be minimal. Energy and weight would be but the cost would override any advantages I would think
 
Sorry I was wrong. Again that small system to me should be through the roof! I'll trade you everything we have for the small setup except the controllers and laptops with the HD's. I wish I could hear how the small setup sounds.
Considering you don't have anything even close to the worth, why would she even consider it?
 
Val could correct me on this but I think once you get it down to a habit in a show that big the time savings would be minimal. Energy and weight would be but the cost would override any advantages I would think
That's where you charge a client enough to do the job so that's not a issue. If the client isn't willing to pay that price, then you look for someone that will pay that price.
 
That's where you charge a client enough to do the job so that's not a issue. If the client isn't willing to pay that price, then you look for someone that will pay that price.

You need to comprehend sentences before you respond. The 'cost' here is for replacing bulbed fixtures with LED's. This is not a 'client' price.
 
You need to comprehend sentences before you respond. The 'cost' here is for replacing bulbed fixtures with LED's. This is not a 'client' price.

Thanks Tig I had to go back and read my post I thought I misspoke....
 
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i do not miss having to "cycle" my lighting effects.... and getting burnt on the side of hot par cans... but i can understand how replacing it all and re learning everything would be daunting...

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Val could correct me on this but I think once you get it down to a habit in a show that big the time savings would be minimal. Energy and weight would be but the cost would override any advantages I would think

You are spot on. The cost is huge to make that upgrade, and the savings is weight (of little value to us) and power consumption (would be beneficial but so far not at the cost).
As to weight...well I guess it would be easier to put up lightweight cans, so would save wear and tear on our bodies. But really, hanging 32 par cans is not all that strenuous. Space in the truck would be similar. I guess one could argue that the LED pars could fit in a little smaller road case, or more in the same space, but space is not a premium for us. Likewise, weight in the trailer isn't much of an issue either. Right now our truck weighs in at under 40,000 lbs. With the single axle tractor we can take our total to 50,000 or so without much thought as to distribution of the load in the trailer. Beyond 50,000 lbs we need to watch the load on the drive axle or upgrade to a tandem axle truck. Now upgrading to the LEDs has a few advantages...like dimming. Dimming adds a lot of weight. I don't see much time savings making the change--right now we hang lights, run power (these run to ground), plug in control cable (these are a few feet long). As to heat, I guess that's just not much an issue. They are 15 feet in the air, and it's not like the first thing we do tearing down is grab a par can. There's an hour of wrapping cables before the truss comes down.

The stereo requires 220 already, so not like the lighting is pushing it over the edge. We are maxing out a 220V 50A circuit....actually typically pull several dimmers to 110's to lighten the load a bit. But eliminating the par cans from the power consumption mix would not change our tech requirements at all. The cost of upgrading the equipment would not make the system an easier sell, nor would it make it command more money, which sort of makes an illogical purchase.

As to cycling lights, we don't really have any that can't run full duty so that's not an issue.

We do have non-DJ events that would very much benefit from LED particularly for power advantages, and may utilize some in that arena.

Edited to add: the cost to replace the par cans with equivilent output LED pars is close to $1k per fixture. We have 32 par 64s in our big system. While the LEDs would afford us more color options, we can't get the coverage of our 65' wide dance floor with fewer fixtures, so it's not like we can replace the 32 with 16. For small events that would be feasible, but not for the type of event that we do.
 
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