Which DJ Facade Do you like more?

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Which Facade Do You Like more?

  • Rockville Facade

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Grundorf Facade

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Don't buy either one. Waste of Money. Just keep Using your Table Top Facades

    Votes: 2 40.0%

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DJ Ricky B

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I have been going back and fourth for a while now on moving to a full facade. Still debating on if I want to make the move. I am currently looking at these two Facades at the moment. The Rockville RFAWW Facade or the Grundorf 48" x 72" Facade
Rockville: Cost $149.95
Size: Front Panels are 27.5" each so front would be 55" across. Enough for a 4 foot table. Any larger table would mean spreading the side panels out, and having less side coverage of the table, BUT I can add panels in the future.
PROS: Only weighs about 8 lbs. Comes with Travel Bag. It is expandable. I can buy additional panels to make it larger. Scrims are detachable and washable.
Cons: Would have to spend some time to put it together once it arrives. It is very light, so not sure how STURDY it will be if people lean on it.
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Grundorf 48" x 72" Facade: Cost: $299.95
Size: Entire front side is 72" Wide. 48" Tall. Side Panels are only 18" in depth, so they won't cover the sides of an entire table
PROS: Already put together and ready to use. Looks "Classy". It Folds quickly for very quick set up and tear down. It is very sturdy with a weight of 37.2 lbs. Can use a 4 to 6 foot table, although a 6 foot table might require bending the side panels out just a bit to make it fit. Made in the USA!
CONS: The scrims are not detachable, but are cleanable by hand. Folds to 48" by 36". This facade is thicker, and will take up more room in my SUV to transport. A Carry Bag does not come with it, and will require an additional $105-$110 to purchase one.
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DJ Ricky B

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I have gone through a couple of different ones. Just extra money and more crap to haul.

That is part of my thought process, and one of the reasons why I have only stuck with table top facades over the years. Easier to set up, and tear down. Smaller so easier to transport. However, there are usually 1-2 events a year where I think a full facade would work better for that particular event. Venues where the dance floor is RIGHT in front of the DJ Table, and not a lot of room, so people are dancing right in front of the table, and a little too close for comfort...sometimes people even bump into the table. I often think that a full facade would be better in this situation. Then again, I only feel this way maybe 2 times a year.
 

MIXMASTERMACHOM

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I went to Musically yours and bought the Pro X facade. They are located in Hackinsack, NJ. It cost $400 plus tax. I saw a friend of mine had one and I certainly had to have one. It comes with both Black and White scrims. You put them over the facade and it comes with 2 built in shelves. The top shelve I can put my controller with the case on it and below that one is another one that you can put stuff on. That way you eliminate having to use a table. Also you can put other small stuff on the floor inside the facade. I might have made a mistake about the 2 shelves. It's the Pro X FX Mesa MK2. It's worth the money.
 
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That grundorf is hideous... I've seen the rockville style from different manufacturers. I used to use one that was the same look, but without the removable spandex. I loved it, and got many compliments. Super light as well and easy to transport. As far as people leaning... unless they're drunk, they quickly realize it won't support their weight and never had any damage to the actual structure of the unit.
 

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Please look up the one I mentioned.
No disprespect, but the one you bought isn't the most visually attractive in a wedding environment. It's not bad in a lounge/club or backyard party atmosphere (which I think is why you're attracted to it), but it doesn't have a certain elegance for a wedding atmosphere... let alone the set up time is significantly more than the facades Ricky has posted (rickys is set up in less than a minute). He primarily does weddings as well, so it should fit the appearance.
 
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That grundorf is hideous... I've seen the rockville style from different manufacturers. I used to use one that was the same look, but without the removable spandex. I loved it, and got many compliments. Super light as well and easy to transport. As far as people leaning... unless they're drunk, they quickly realize it won't support their weight and never had any damage to the actual structure of the unit.
Interesting, I thought the framing on the Rockville looked really cheap and the Grundorf looked like a more substantial and higher quality product. I don't love either, but I didn't think it looked bad.
 

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It's more set up time, but if I were buying another frontboard piece today, I'd get another one from Milin Designs:
View: https://www.facebook.com/CassielXue/posts/686560138811700


The frames take maybe 5 minutes to set up, and probably 2-3 to take down at the end of the night. But the skrims are pretty cheap and it gives you the ability to give the client options.

White setting? No problem. Black, got it. Want to do something more funky that fits your brand and aesthetic? Sweet!

They travel super light and add a huge value to the client and planner if you get a few carefully selected designs.
 
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djtaso

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Interesting, I thought the framing on the Rockville looked really cheap and the Grundorf looked like a more substantial and higher quality product. I don't love either, but I didn't think it looked bad.
It's that thick black carpeted border that destroys the design and takes away from what could be a more elegant facade. It is in fact thicker and bore robust... but at the same time, the aluminum frame of the rockville and others is actually very durable. Is it easier to tip over and be moved with an accidental bump than the grundorf... absolutely... but will it be damaged... doubtful. I actually had 8 panels for my really really big prom setups at one point. Like I said, the only thing that sucked was it was easy to bump into and move out of position.
 

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It's that thick black carpeted border that destroys the design and takes away from what could be a more elegant facade. It is in fact thicker and bore robust... but at the same time, the aluminum frame of the rockville and others is actually very durable. Is it easier to tip over and be moved with an accidental bump than the grundorf... absolutely... but will it be damaged... doubtful. I actually had 8 panels for my really really big prom setups at one point. Like I said, the only thing that sucked was it was easy to bump into and move out of position.
I thought it was wood or plastic, not carpeted. If it's carpet, I agree.
 

DJ Ricky B

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I think dragon frontboard uses wood, but the grundorf I'm almost certain is carpet.
It is a sort of a thick layer of carpet over wood. Maybe 1/5" thick...if that. Some of it has come off of my 16x52" table top Grundorf Facade on the bottom center of it. Of course, that facade has been in use for like 7-8 years now. I use it less these days, but I got my money worth out of it at this point.

My Dragon Frontboards custom facade has been falling apart with far less use on it. The two plastic hinges on the sides have fallen apart or cracked. So I have it rigged up with clear package tape, and gaffers tape holding the side panels onto the center panels. I can still use it, but I have to be delicate with it. I just put fresh tape on it last night. Debating if I want to use it on Saturday's wedding. I only got 2 seasons out of it before the hinges were breaking and I was DELICATE with it.

I have a smaller 42" x 7" cheap version of this facade that is only 1/8" thick. I use it for my ceremony table. This is much lighter and the plastic hinges have held up. The problem with the custom one I had made is they used 1/4" thick plexi glass, and it's just too heavy for the plastic hinges to really handle.

Grundorf does make a version without the carpet, and uses plexiglass or what they call "hard plastic" instead of lycra. It's $450 instead of $299.95.


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It's only 63" wide though, so I would have to step down to a 4 or 5 foot table to use it. And I think I would have to be more delicate transporting it around. Don't want to crack plexi glass or scratch it up. At least carpet prevents scratches on the frame.
 

DJ Ricky B

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Most venue/ ballrooms I work have table skirted to match the room. I put on a black or white topper to stay with the theme.
That is also what I do. However, about 40% of the time, the venue does not have a table for me, or the table they do have is not sufficient for what I want in a table. (Usually too long, or too old or on rare occasion they put together a couple of high tops for me which is just no good for me) . So I set up my 6 foot with a black cover on it. Sometimes I use white cover, but I noticed that my white cover wrinkles way too easily, and the wrinkles show too easy on it.

Anyway, I keep asking myself the same questions when I think about going with a bigger facade:

1. Will bringing in a bigger facade really "Up my game in terms of presentation?"
2. Will using one help me earn more money over what I currently do?
3. Is the hassle of figuring out finding more space in my SUV for the Facade, and the hassle of carrying it in and out, and dealing with the additional time of setting it up compared to what I do now with table top facades even worth it?

I do on average about 2 events per year where I think to myself that a Full Facade would have been better to have over my table top facade due to dancers being so close to the table at the venue. Outside of those two events per year, My regular table top facades work out just fine for me. In the end they were okay for those two events, but it would have been nice to have the additional protection from a full facade in front of my table.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM

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No disprespect, but the one you bought isn't the most visually attractive in a wedding environment. It's not bad in a lounge/club or backyard party atmosphere (which I think is why you're attracted to it), but it doesn't have a certain elegance for a wedding atmosphere... let alone the set up time is significantly more than the facades Ricky has posted (rickys is set up in less than a minute). He primarily does weddings as well, so it should fit the appearance.
I'm attracted to it because it has a table top built in so no need for the use of a table. Now depending on what color scrims you use it wouldn't look bad at a wedding. The big thing is that it will hide quite a bit of things. Now I love the one you have. The one you use I've seen in pictures is great looking and fits what you do which is weddings. Is your issue that you don't like a facade that you need to use scrims? I can't wait to do an event using that facade so I can get a picture of it after it has been setup.

Anybody care to share a picture of the facade they use at events?
 
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DJ Ricky B

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Anybody care to share a picture of the facade they use at events?
This was last Saturday. I was up on a stage in an OLD BARN built back in the 1800s by the Amish, and was "remodeled" with new flooring about 6 years ago. This was a small wedding only 40 people. I decided to use my Old Grundorf Facade at this one because I didn't know what to expect being in an old barn, and it was a small wedding any way.

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Here is a picture of me doing the ceremony...which was by an olympic style lap pool at this private Country Estate. This shows my cheap "SHORT" Dragon Frontboards table top facade that I use for ceremonies. The ceremony was on the other side of this pool. This small TT Facade weighs like 1.5 lbs. A guest took a picture of me.
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Here is my 6 Foot PYLE Table Top Facade I bought for like $89 a few years ago. It is the biggest one to transport that I have. It goes into the box it arrived in. No bag for it.


6 foot Pyle Table Top Facade.jpg

Here is the custom Dragon Frontboards Table Top Facade I had made a few years back. It is 14" tall so a bit shorter than the other two that I use. I wanted it 14" tall for a reason, and I can't remember why, lol. I think because I wanted the full back of my laptops to show when looking straight at my table in case I was going to put laptop signage on my laptops...I never got around to doing that. But this is arguably the nicest looking one that I have. Id you look closely you can see the gaffers tape I have holding up that left side panel since the plastic hinge broke off.
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