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Handinon

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What do you like about Traktor that Serato doesn't offer? I'm not defending Serato, I'm just curious what features you need.
The thing I dislike most about Serato is the GUI itself - very busy with parallel waveforms. This leaves very little room for the "Track Overview Waveform" which is ridiculously small - too little height and difficult to see.

In a perfect world, all my music would be properly prepared ahead of time - loops, cue points, etc., - so the overview waveform is just a placeholder, you don't really have to "read" it - but I don't live in a perfect world. I have a big Library and I will take Requests, so I'll cue up a song that is not prepared. Traktor (and Mixvibes) have nice big Track Overview Waveforms, which makes seat-of-the-pants jumping around in the song very easy. I honestly don't know how Serato users tolerate this, especially with sourcing songs from Tidal, etc..

I don't need parallel waveforms. Latin Salsa music traditionally is not mixed, and the times I do mix - I'm not proud - I turn on Sync!

The reason I never used Traktor in the past was because it never had Smart Playlists (Smart Crates). The newest releases do, and it works very well.

Still, it's not for everyone. For example, no Video...and it's future is an unknown.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM

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Like I said I use VDJ and I love it. As far as Serato I believe there is a way to enlarge the things so you don't have to struggle reading the titles of a song or artist.
 

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Enlarge the font size to your likeing on serato
 

Handinon

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Like I said I use VDJ and I love it. As far as Serato I believe there is a way to enlarge the things so you don't have to struggle reading the titles of a song or artist.
Enlarge the font size to your likeing on serato
This is Traktor -

Traktor.jpg

The area circled in Red is the Track Overview Waveform. Note that it is large enough to be easily read.
By comparison, Serato's is very thin - Font size has nothing to do with it.

Anyone who really knows how to fix this in Serato, I'm all ears! I'm running Serato DJ Pro 2.5.0.2050 Beta
 
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This is Traktor -

View attachment 52533

The area circled in Red is the Track Overview Waveform. Note that it is large enough to be easily read.
By comparison, Serato's is very thin - Font size has nothing to do with it.

Anyone who really knows how to fix this in Serato, I'm all ears! I'm running Serato DJ Pro 2.5.0.2050 Beta

There isn't a fix. But I don't think there needs to be one, as it meets the needs of its audience, who are more concerned with the live-waveform, hence, the visual hierarchy. You have different requirements, but it's based on a different issue -- that 100% of your music isn't prepped. So maybe address that. If the software doesn't meet your need, and you use sync anyway, why mix live at all? Other software could run it entirely, and you don't have to be part of the chain, except for queueing, thus, eliminating your need to read whole track waveforms.

Either way, it's your workflow that has the gap, not the software. For private bookings, I, too, roll with a shit ton of music, and take requests, but it's all prepped, even the stuff I got yesterday. It's part of the workflow, and there's software to help accomplish it. I can send you some recommendations.

Rekordbox does have a larger whole-track waveform, and as you said, so does Traktor. If you're not missing anything from else Serato, you're good, right? Serato meets the needs of its audience. I DJ with Serato at home and private gigs, but for club gigs I go with the DJ-standard Export mode/USB drive from Rekordbox.
 

Albatross

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The thing I dislike most about Serato is the GUI itself - very busy with parallel waveforms. This leaves very little room for the "Track Overview Waveform" which is ridiculously small - too little height and difficult to see.

In a perfect world, all my music would be properly prepared ahead of time - loops, cue points, etc., - so the overview waveform is just a placeholder, you don't really have to "read" it - but I don't live in a perfect world. I have a big Library and I will take Requests, so I'll cue up a song that is not prepared. Traktor (and Mixvibes) have nice big Track Overview Waveforms, which makes seat-of-the-pants jumping around in the song very easy. I honestly don't know how Serato users tolerate this, especially with sourcing songs from Tidal, etc..

I don't need parallel waveforms. Latin Salsa music traditionally is not mixed, and the times I do mix - I'm not proud - I turn on Sync!

The reason I never used Traktor in the past was because it never had Smart Playlists (Smart Crates). The newest releases do, and it works very well.

Still, it's not for everyone. For example, no Video...and it's future is an unknown.
Serato has a handful of viewing modes. I personally don't like horizontal wave forms either, but I use the vertical ones. But for more library space, you can also use library mode:
Screen Shot 2021-04-09 at 3.38.21 PM.png

I guess I just don't use those track overview waveforms for much. Occasionally to see a breakdown coming in a more EDM focused song, but having a way to enlarge that component has never been a desire at all.

To each their own though, I'm glad you have a tool that works for you.