What are your thoughts on the new Denon 4 Prime controller?

djcrazychris

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Yes ... though I have an iPad as the live backup. I keep a 2nd laptop nearby and a small controller as well.
Seems just as easy and cheaper to have a second stand alone player ....if u need the peace of mind.... im cool with my back up plan...

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And I look good with hair ...Bozoed or not ...
 
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Seems just as easy and cheaper to have a second stand alone player ....if u need the peace of mind.... im cool with my back up plan...

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Just saying there are issues with any setup .. the all-in-ones don't relieve them, they just have a different set ..
 

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Ditch the laptop. That’s crazy. I’ve been a DJ for 45+ and haven’t seen one item so powerful and useful. Have you ever noticed that every stand alone unit tries to add more & more features to do any laptop already does. It’s been that way from the start. And I am sure Denon & Pioneer are working hard to get me to spend then massive amount of money I did on CD players & finally in Pioneer DVD players which were all replaced by laptops. Now I am not saying don’t buy the unit as it looks like a very nice unit with some nice features. But it does not do video. So, if do show music videos, integrate A/V or Ambient stuff and or do karaoke you’ll still need a laptop and a different system. But if you are audio only and don’t mind replacing everything when you want to upgrade, it might be for you. But even if I was audio only I prefer looking at 17” screen. And as far as looking like na DJ, when people start looking at me instead of dancing I am not doing my job.
 

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I truly would think most dj's would be happy to be less dependent on a laptop. it tacks on an extra grand or two onto your set up....its a ticking time bomb as far as reliability.... Visually it is such a distraction if you are trying to form a bond with your dancefloor... they look at you ...hunkered over behind your laptop... searching...squinting... might as well be playing spider solitaire with a light show...

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What do you use? I use a laptop and I didn't spend a grand or 2. Even the backup laptop cost me $500 new. Also I see the crowd while I'm Djing an event. I don't stay bent over the whole time looking up songs to play.
 

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So just to clarify... you bring a second controller and laptop to every gig?

I have about 2 dozen relevent premade mix sets on an mp3 player as well as my phone along with every request slow and fast loaded on for each gig...i prerun them to my main board ...and can switch to either in a matter of seconds...

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I'm glad I'm not you. I don't have a preset mix to use at an event. I know how to read a crowd normally and will play the right music for an event. What if what you have preset isn't what a certain crowd wants, what do you do then?
 

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I know how to read a crowd normally and will play the right music for an event.
Apparently you didn't at the last event where they asked you to play something else ..
 

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I'm glad I'm not you. I don't have a preset mix to use at an event. I know how to read a crowd normally and will play the right music for an event. What if what you have preset isn't what a certain crowd wants, what do you do then?
Apparently you didn't at the last event where they asked you to play something else ..
 

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Lol, the only people that should be looking at you while you’re spinning should be other DJs. I don’t know how we got to the Point where you have to practice DJing in front of a mirror. But I’ve Literally had people darn near having sex pushed up against my DJ front and I couldn’t get their attention to move. Until the music stopped.

But having people looking while DJing reminds me of this


View: https://youtu.be/XCawU6BE8P8
 
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... But having people looking white DJing reminds me of this...
Sorry you feel that way, but I was born white.[emoji1]

Nothing I can do about it. You try to make yourself look black, they call you a racist or make you Governor of Virginia.[emoji1]
 

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I truly would think most dj's would be happy to be less dependent on a laptop. it tacks on an extra grand or two onto your set up....its a ticking time bomb as far as reliability.... Visually it is such a distraction if you are trying to form a bond with your dancefloor... they look at you ...hunkered over behind your laptop... searching...squinting... might as well be playing spider solitaire with a light show...

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For me, it was the exact opposite. I hated using CDs. They were scratched, not in the right place, took me way too long to find the right song. The CD player doors would jam. Laser go bad. But we weren't using great equipment and playing in smokey bars too.

I started using laptops before there was software to do it with one. I had the laptops already. It was so much easier even with 2 laptops. Then I found dj software around 2000.

I found I could spend much more time with the crowd because I wasn't going through books of cds, putting the CD in, then cuing. Other DJ's would tell me they were faster with CDs than computers. Maybe, but the way I was DJing, I was 10 times faster loading a song with a computer than I ever we with a cd.

Issues with CDs and players were a regular thing. Issues with computers have been once every several years.

I love using laptops. Today, my software will bring up the exact song I'm looking for within a few keystrokes.
 
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I truly would think most dj's would be happy to be less dependent on a laptop. it tacks on an extra grand or two onto your set up....its a ticking time bomb as far as reliability.... Visually it is such a distraction if you are trying to form a bond with your dancefloor... they look at you ...hunkered over behind your laptop... searching...squinting... might as well be playing spider solitaire with a light show...

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I ditched the laptop after my first event... but not the DJ computer. I probably wouldn’t even be a DJ if not for computers. I was ripping CD’s and playing music on a computer LONG before most DJ’s. As a lifelong music collector, a computer geek, artist, and one who spoke frequently in front of large audiences, DJing was a natural outlet for a retirement business. I have maybe 8 DJ computers right now, with main computers, tablets, backups, and my laptop (which still goes with me to every event). You can’t have too many computers. And you don’t need to spend a thousand dollars on a DJ computer.[emoji4]
 

djcrazychris

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I'm glad I'm not you. I don't have a preset mix to use at an event. I know how to read a crowd normally and will play the right music for an event. What if what you have preset isn't what a certain crowd wants, what do you do then?
you sir are a numbskull...

i have those preset mixes ONLY in the event that my controller dies.... those mixes cover a wide variety of music and work at just about any party/wedding/event... i also have folders full of the requests for that particular event....so i can cover all their music interlaced within dance sets ...all from my phone or mp3 player...

i mix live and read a crowd.... and you read a crowd...ONLY if they like what you like.... be real with yourself

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