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We have a crack in the ceiling in our kitchen directly under the toilet in the bathroom up stairs. The toilet was installed in 2018. We are guessing the wax wring needs to maybe be replaced We don't see any water stains, but the ceiling is cracking pretty good.

My wife found 2 friends on facebook who have husbands as plumbers on Facebook. They have their contact information on facebook. Both say they are Master Plumbers. I called both of them and both calls went to voice mail. Left messages. I am giving them the rest of the day to return my phone call.

If no response today, I will call up one of them main Plumbing companies tomorrow morning. Last time I used Michael and Son when we needed a plumber and it was very expensive, but they did a good job.
 
Toilet has to be one of the easiest d y I that even a cave man can do.😊 go to YouTube , check it out.
 
Yeah, very easy. It only gets a little difficult if the old flange is rusted out or cracked (if plastic and glued in). If your floor is a bit uneven (as sometimes happens on tile), set the toilet on a thin layer of plaster of Paris before tightening down over the wax ring. That will absorb any unevenness.
 
The other thing to check for is dripping from the angle stop. Maybe the valve needs replacement or maybe it is leaking from one of the fittings between the valve and bowl. Another leak source is if the shut-off float assembly is not adjusted correctly and water splashes as it refills the tank. That is easy to see if you flush while the top of the tank is off.
 
Dude, do it yourself. Turn off the water to the toilet and flush. Loosen two anchor bolts, set the tank off to the side. Pull out the old ring and set a new one in place. Put the toilet back over, tighten the bolts, you're done. My guess is you've probably got a ring leak which had been dripping down onto the kitchen ceiling, cause the damage.
 
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Dude, do it yourself. Turn off the water to the toilet and flush. Loosen two anchor bolts, set the tank off to the side. Pull out the old ring and set a new one in place. Put the toilet back over, tighten the bolts, you're done. My guess is you've probably got a ring leak which had been dripping down onto the kitchen ceiling, cause the damage.
Agreed, super easy

This morning I woke up and my garbage disposal was non functioning, would spin kept tripping the reset, normally I would fix myself but no time today, made 1 phone call, and it was fixed before 10 am the kid had let something get in there I couldn’t see, total bill, $67.35.

Take care of your community and your community will take care of you. I’ve done several events for this guy including his company Christmas parties for the last 4 years ,

I also had 3-4 back up guys in my phone that I expect would have also taken care of me quickly
 
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If there's no signs of water - why do you suspect a leaking toilet? The first sign of a leak is typically water stains not cracking,

It could just as easily be movement of the floor, stressed sheet rock, plaster detaching from lathe, or lathe nails/sheet rock screws that are no longer anchored.
Has anyone or anything happened to cause a sudden shock the floor upstairs at that position?

I had 4 daughters who would drive me crazy irish step dancing in the house. The vibrations were enough to cause the sheet rock to pop over the screws in some areas,
 
If there's no signs of water - why do you suspect a leaking toilet? The first sign of a leak is typically water stains not cracking,

It could just as easily be movement of the floor, stressed sheet rock, plaster detaching from lathe, or lathe nails/sheet rock screws that are no longer anchored.
Has anyone or anything happened to cause a sudden shock the floor upstairs at that position?

I had 4 daughters who would drive me crazy irish step dancing in the house. The vibrations were enough to cause the sheet rock to pop over the screws in some areas,

You Are correct. That is what I told my wife is likely happening. However, it's still a good idea to have a plumber check everything out.

So, the Plumber who I called first only lives 1 mile from us. He is here now. He just cut out a hole in the ceiling and we are having him install an access door so the pipes can easily be seen under the toilet area. He also checked the bathrub and ran water to make sure nothing is leaking from there.

I totally forgot that our Diverter Valve in the tub has been leaking until he was up there and it popped into my head. We have a more rare Diverter valve. He is going to get that particular valve replacement and replace it for us. That faucet has been leaking water for years while we take a shower. Thought nothing of it until the last 6 months or so as the leak grew larger. What happens is the seal inside wears out. Our bath tub is very old fiberglass one, and we are planning to get it redone hopefully later this year. We also need to get s bunch of windows replaced that have a lot of oxidation in them. All installed back in 2010...now they need to be replaced again.
 
What I find is normally you get what pay for. You said the other company was expensive. Let me ask did they do a really good job?
 
What I find is normally you get what pay for. You said the other company was expensive. Let me ask did they do a really good job?
I have a friend who has been doing this longer than me and does prep work before a lot of his events. That's fine for him. Me I don't do a lot of preparing for an event most times. I have been a DJ this last time for 24 years. So I'm confident about the service I provide as a DJ.

You can say that again!
 
Let me say this. Sometimes your money may be limited so you might just settle for just something. Especially if it's an emergency situation. It's best when you can to spend the extra money to get the thing right or the right thing.

Here's 2 examples. I had a car I bought a long time ago. I didn't know the engine was bad. I took it to a guy to get a tuneup. His so called shop was in a backyard and not a real shop. Now if he was a real mechanic he would have known the engine was bad and he couldn't do a tuneup. So I got ripped off in that case. After that I learned to go to a real mechanic shop and spend the extra money.

Then I was in GC looking to buy a pair of active speakers. My partner tried to get me to buy a pair of Mackie Thumps. I know he was saying this because of the price. I didn't even bother to hear them. I settled on a pair of Yamaha DSR 15's which one speaker was the price of 2 times what I call the Mackie Junks. He bought a pair and had to replace some speakers inside the speaker because he blew something. I have had the Yamaha speakers for way over 10 years and they still are working fine and sounding GREAT.
 
What I find is normally you get what pay for. You said the other company was expensive. Let me ask did they do a really good job?


Yes, he also installed an access door to the pipes below the toilet in our Kitchen Ceiling. So now we can open it up and check things out. There was no leak from the toilet. It was doing well. No water or leak was found there. Crack in ceiling is gone because the access door was installed.
 
Yes, he also installed an access door to the pipes below the toilet in our Kitchen Ceiling. So now we can open it up and check things out. There was no leak from the toilet. It was doing well. No water or leak was found there. Crack in ceiling is gone because the access door was installed.
So is the issue fixed?