Virtual DJ Version 4

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There has been software with singular visions of their designer - Juan Antonio Arguelles Rius (Arguru) with the original Deckadance, Rick Cimorelli with Rockit Pro (both deceased in car accidents!), but it's usually a team effort with long term development, using some input from the software developers own forums.

Yeah...I really miss having Rick on these boards. And his RockIt software has a great customizable auto mix feature. It was my software of choice - simple, stable and effective.
 
Yeah...I really miss having Rick on these boards. And his RockIt software has a great customizable auto mix feature. It was my software of choice - simple, stable and effective.

I'd be using it if he put in the dang iTunes library integration that EVERY OTHER package has .. he just wouldn't.
 
I think you're reaching for something that's empty smoke. If I'm wrong about that I'll be the first to congratulate you when your IT certificate earns you a DJ residency. Until then I think you're going to find that an audition is what's required.

Don't try to confuse things grasshopper. ;)
 
wasn't this a thread about VDJ4 and the auto mix feature? Hummm... Personally as a VDJ user I like the single side automix. I only use it during cocktail/dinner or a quick run to the bathroom.

I like having an open deck ready to go with another song, just in case the B&G walk in unexpectedly, or something like that. And 2 lists, one for each deck would be confusing to my little brain. :)
 
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Over on another forum, there's a DJ looking to purchase a legitimate copy of Virtual DJ 4.1 revision 2. He says he prefers the way it does Automix over the way Version 7 and Version 8 do it. Not something you see every day.

Software junky that I am, it got me interested. I found a Trial Version of it, and he's right, it does two-deck Automix mixing, which is completely different from the new versions (from Version 5 and onward), and it does it well. Further research found the obligatory groupies over at the Virtual DJ Forum that want two-deck Automix mixing brought back as an option in the current version.

I'm sure there are some here who were DJ'ing back in 2006 - any experience with this?
I didn't like the change in how the playlist automix feature worked when they changed it either. But, I adapted and don't miss the old two deck way at all. Ver 8 is so much better in many ways.
 
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Auto mix. Me never ever! I'm not that lazy. I learned how to mix and don't need to use auto mix. I was at a party where I noticed that's what the DJ was using. I realized that after a bit of time hearing him supposedly playing the music.
 
I don't buy that "never" statement from anyone who uses software. Cocktail hour, dinner music are either on an auto-mix or, just as lazy my friend, a 30 minute one track pre-mix.

Live musicians "play" music. DJs playback music.
 
The thing about software is that people choose tools that enhance their ability or compensate for their weakness.

Sync for example, can aid a DJ at either end of the skill spectrum. It tightens up medley creation and mashups for the experienced mixer, and for the novice it gets them into a better sounding mix with less of a learning curve. The same tool can perform very differently based on who is using it - and that has always been true of everything we use.

Autoplay can help you get out in front of the booth for some other interactive form of entertainment, or just keep things going while you line up a bridal party. It might free you to do more or it could let you just sit on your arse. Don't blame the tools for choices made by the DJ.
 
I guess I'm the only one here who uses automix all the time in VDJ 8. Since I'm the DJ and the MC and most of the time day of Cord, it's a great thing for me. I have yet to have anyone complain and we do well in our business and during events. Plus may times I'm out on the floor or doing something fun and crazy getting people to dance. )
 
I guess I'm the only one here who uses automix all the time in VDJ 8.
I also agree that there is nothing wrong with Autoplay - a set list of songs, in a specific order, and the software controls the transitions according to your settings. For those that use it, the absolutely best free software that does it is Digijay - I've mentioned it before.

I should have been clearer with my earlier definition of AutoMix to NOT mean the kind that actually chooses the next song, and then mixes it.
 
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This I cannot believe...

The forum that got on me so fast about hanging a banner at a gig are talking about using sync and auto mix.

Unbelievable. I started in 2001 with a pair of belt drive turntables. If you know anything about tts, you know how impossible it is to match beats with any consistency.

A couple of years later I could finally afford direct drives. World of difference.

I have no clue where this idea about turntables "locking" that is grade a bull sh**. You have to constantly remain vigilant over the mix with tts. With controllers and software, you can pretty much "lock" beats, but you still need to make slight adjustments. UNLESS you sync. Which is fu***** horrible.

I don't care what you call yourself - DJ, Mobile DJ, Wedding DJ, etc. - if you need sync or auto mix, you are a human iPod.

Simple as that.

Really, really unbelieveable thread. Banner - NO NO NO. Automix and sync - routine.
 
This I cannot believe...

The forum that got on me so fast about hanging a banner at a gig are talking about using sync and auto mix.

Unbelievable. I started in 2001 with a pair of belt drive turntables. If you know anything about tts, you know how impossible it is to match beats with any consistency.

A couple of years later I could finally afford direct drives. World of difference.

I have no clue where this idea about turntables "locking" that is grade a bull sh**. You have to constantly remain vigilant over the mix with tts. With controllers and software, you can pretty much "lock" beats, but you still need to make slight adjustments. UNLESS you sync. Which is fu***** horrible.

I don't care what you call yourself - DJ, Mobile DJ, Wedding DJ, etc. - if you need sync or auto mix, you are a human iPod.

Simple as that.

Really, really unbelieveable thread. Banner - NO NO NO. Automix and sync - routine.
The difference is the banner is a VISIBLE statement to the audience .. auto mix / sync are NOT. If you sell yourself as the DJ that does it all live .. kudos to you .. some of us have other responsibilities at different times and these features are all just tools.
 
I don't care what you call yourself - DJ, Mobile DJ, Wedding DJ, etc. - if you need sync or auto mix, you are a human iPod.

Simple as that

Needing and using are very different things. I don't need a car but it sure makes life easier that I have one same can be said for sync
 
I always choose the next song but I have many great list with tons of great stuff. I think I might have to call my clients of the last 12 years and apologize for their great time at their events and my use of automix. I do appreciate the art of beat mixing. But it is not one of my skills, I would say that I sell myself more as wedding entertainment, and so do our clients. And no I don't hide my websites or who we are online thus my reason for me being so open about who we are.

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I don't even know how you can switch through genres without cuts and cue points. It must sound terrible. There are only certain instances where you should be actually mixing tracks.

I get the banner thing, but I am amazed how you can call yourself a dj if you just press buttons and let technology take over.

There are songs that you shouldn't play all the way through. There are tracks you shouldn't play some of the intro. It's about the craft of understanding your music and basic skills of DJing.

If you are so transparent, you should call yourself entertainment or music provider and not DJ.

I have over 15 years of real DJing. It's more about knowing when to do certain things to make the music maintain its energy and flow.

What do you do when your mix is a complete trainwreck? Break for the bathroom - that is unprofessional. The only time I can see an opportunity for that is maybe letting music play a couple tracks in a row for cocktails or whatever.

But when it comes down to making people dance, people will lose their groove if you suddenly mix between genres with a crappy automix.

Sync is not as bad as automix, but is still horrible. Use Serato or some other program where it requires a little knowledge of beatmatching.

The other main issue with sync and automix is phrase matching. If you're not matching phrases, it will not sound good. It will feel like the music is slipping out of time.

You all maybe great marketers or entertainers, but DJs you are not.
 
I don't even know how you can switch through genres without cuts and cue points. It must sound terrible. There are only certain instances where you should be actually mixing tracks.

I get the banner thing, but I am amazed how you can call yourself a dj if you just press buttons and let technology take over.

There are songs that you shouldn't play all the way through. There are tracks you shouldn't play some of the intro. It's about the craft of understanding your music and basic skills of DJing.

If you are so transparent, you should call yourself entertainment or music provider and not DJ.

I have over 15 years of real DJing. It's more about knowing when to do certain things to make the music maintain its energy and flow.

What do you do when your mix is a complete trainwreck? Break for the bathroom - that is unprofessional. The only time I can see an opportunity for that is maybe letting music play a couple tracks in a row for cocktails or whatever.

But when it comes down to making people dance, people will lose their groove if you suddenly mix between genres with a crappy automix.

Sync is not as bad as automix, but is still horrible. Use Serato or some other program where it requires a little knowledge of beatmatching.

The other main issue with sync and automix is phrase matching. If you're not matching phrases, it will not sound good. It will feel like the music is slipping out of time.

You all maybe great marketers or entertainers, but DJs you are not.

Thank God you showed up to help the unwashed masses. There's nothing better than someone staying anonymous and telling the rest of us how poorly we do things
 
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I don't even know how you can switch through genres without cuts and cue points. It must sound terrible. There are only certain instances where you should be actually mixing tracks.

I get the banner thing, but I am amazed how you can call yourself a dj if you just press buttons and let technology take over.

There are songs that you shouldn't play all the way through. There are tracks you shouldn't play some of the intro. It's about the craft of understanding your music and basic skills of DJing.

If you are so transparent, you should call yourself entertainment or music provider and not DJ.

I have over 15 years of real DJing. It's more about knowing when to do certain things to make the music maintain its energy and flow.

What do you do when your mix is a complete trainwreck? Break for the bathroom - that is unprofessional. The only time I can see an opportunity for that is maybe letting music play a couple tracks in a row for cocktails or whatever.

But when it comes down to making people dance, people will lose their groove if you suddenly mix between genres with a crappy automix.

Sync is not as bad as automix, but is still horrible. Use Serato or some other program where it requires a little knowledge of beatmatching.

The other main issue with sync and automix is phrase matching. If you're not matching phrases, it will not sound good. It will feel like the music is slipping out of time.

You all maybe great marketers or entertainers, but DJs you are not.
I didn't realize there was a "DJ Standard" out there and you are one of the flag-bearers .. good to know.
 
Rather than preaching to the choir absentia, I shall continue to watch this thread, but unless the comments refer directly to VDJ4, I shall remain silent.
As steve149 has already said, the "auto" features of software are nothing but tools. Period.