Thinking on a new Laptop

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I'm done paying $900 or more for a new machine. The turn-over on technology has become so short (computing price/performance ratio now nearly doubles each year) that the market is flooded with excellent deals on just behind the curve products and used business machines. I'd rather not be on the cutting edge - which is where all the nuisance issues occur.

I've gotten some great Intel i7 machines with 16GB RAM and SSD drives for no more than $300 and have no issues with them at all. I intend to pickup some more with slightly lesser specs to use simply as players for audio, karaoke, video loops, or Powerpoint.

I won't do another desktop unless I setup some kind workstation for graphics or video editing. Outside of those creative aspects I don't see myself being parked in any one place long enough to justify a desktop setup.

I used to like the large 17" laptops. Now I prefer portability more, and just leave a large screen monitor on the desk as a secondary display when in the office.
I agree. I own 3 HP Elite notebooks. HP 8760w 17", 32 GB memory, NVIDIA 4000, 2 SSD. Paid less for 3 then one MacBook Pro. They eat videos for breakfast.
 
I agree. I own 3 HP Elite notebooks. HP 8760w 17", 32 GB memory, NVIDIA 4000, 2 SSD. Paid less for 3 then one MacBook Pro. They eat videos for breakfast.
This is not a true or fair statement - as this specific HP model is from 2011, came with 8GB RAM, a 500GB internal SATA drive and sells for around $300 at the moment. A Macbook Pro from 2011 can be obtained for around the same price.
 
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This is not a true or fair statement - as this specific HP model is from 2011, came with 8GB RAM, a 500GB internal SATA drive and sells for around $300 at the moment. A Macbook Pro from 2011 can be obtained for around the same price.
How this is not true? Cost me $ 500 with upgrades. How much is a new MacBook today?
 
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Ok, a Macbook Pro from 2011 (which is when the HP 8760w was born) would cost the same with the same upgrades. As for the price of a new Macbook Pro, depending on what level you want, the price can vary significantly, much like a Windows machine. It's not fair to compare the used price of something from 2011 to the new price of something from today.
 
Nonsense. Check your calendar - it's 2019 so let's deal with reality not your wormhole. Some 8 year old computers meet EOL because of hardware limitations. Others benefit from more open architecture and the availability of equally cheap upgrades that are also no longer in high demand. In the hands of a capable user or refurbisher these machines return with some pretty impressive performance specs and a better OS.
It's obvious you don't have your reading glasses on Bob because nonsense is what you're spewing from your wormhole. My point was simply that you can buy 3 of most things from 2011 compared to something from today. Here, I'll type it slowly for you so that you and your wormhole can comprehend. His comparison was a HP from 2011 compared to a 'Macbook Pro'. His comparison, as stated, is not true, fair or factual in any way, shape or form.
 
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My wife recently purchased a 10" Kindle Fire HD Tablet for her use. Is that state of the art in 2019, or is that equivalent to 2011 or prior tech just being marketed as cheap tech for easy profit these days? :dontknow:
 
I'm going to stay with the point that was being discussed rather than entertain your pointless reference to dumpster diving.

On a price to performance ratio - everything about technology was MORE expensive in 2011 than it is today. The same computer you bought in December 2018 is already surpassed by 75% for the same inflation adjusted dollar today.

I bought three refurbished computers all i7's with specs and performance that exceed my original $900+ new i7 for about $300 each. None of these is more than 12 to 24 months old. Sorry dude, but your not savvy about how the growth of sales to the business sector has fueled this secondary market of just behind the curve hardware while off-setting new sales to the consumer sector.
Actually, that was what was being discussed. You're calling my very much valid reference of equal comparisons 'dumpster diving', yet you are the one bragging of refurbed machines - funny. As much as you think you can turn the tables, you cannot. One thing history does show, is fact - and it can't be altered.

The fact is that you can easily get a Macbook Pro, from the same time period as this HP and for the same price.
 
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No, you can't because an 8 year old MBP is junk.
Much like an 8 year old HP is junk. Had you done some simple searching, you could have easily validated the pricing of both models (and many more).

The cost-performance ratio of upgrading an old MBP is substantially higher than buying a newer one.
Completely untrue - but if you want to debate it, it's no different than the cost-performance ratio of upgrading an 8 year old HP.

Apple's model is closed architecture and functional obsolescence.
More evidence of your missing knowledge and information.

(Must feel good to be one of those DJs using [oops!] sticking a pitchfork into iTunes as a music manager.)
You can easily search across this board and many others and you'll EASILY see that many, many, MANY people use iTunes as a music manager. Are you living in a cave or are you oblivious by choice?

How's that Keynote workin' for ya?
Keynote works fine. How's Powerpoint workin' for ya? You do know there are several versions of 'Office' type applications available for each OS, right?

"I just upgraded my 8 year old MAC.." - said no one, ever.
Just as accurate as - "I just upgraded my 8 year old HP.." - said no one, ever.

Your entire post is full of misinformation. Please continue to dig your hole and demonstrate your knowledge.
 
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Tablets are losing ground to the dual purpose units. People wan't the potability of a tablet with the power of a PC.

Tablets are not losing any ground to anything and if you were in touch with the economy and people, you would know this already. People have always wanted a tablet with the power of a PC - and will continue wanting and buying tablets until it shows up. This device is currently not anywhere on the horizon.

Please continue to demonstrate your knowledge.
 
From the people who brought you frozen sand and electric toothpaste, comes yet another IT guy to caught up in his own infinite loop to validate real world user experience. Yet, one more thing that can't be upgraded! :)