Rebuilding My Music Library

ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
12,520
Western Maryland
While it's romantic to know you're so concerned about how he does things.... he's not experiencing any of the distress you would assign to him. :)
Romance has nothing to do with helping fellow people, buttercup. He will experience all of the distress if he reaches the magical tipping point. :)

It's not my argument.
Serato is a DJ software, and you are arguing over it's capacity as an archive manager. Clearly, as an "IT guru" you can debug this misapplication?
You just discovered that Serato is a DJ software? Wow .. Congratulations. This appears to be your argument - as you keep arguing about things you don't know are an expert at. I'm not arguing over anythings capacity as an archive manager - maybe this is your issue. :dontknow:

I would be more than happy to help them debug applications once they add me to their payroll. Considering you're attempting to be the expert in this field as well, I'll let you take the first attempt. I'm certain your expertise will help solve things sweetie.
 
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Proformance

DJ Extraordinaire
Nov 6, 2006
3,252
That wouldn't fix the karaoke music issue, where I have over 150,000 songs, splitting them will not help, 150k is still 150k.
What file format is your karaoke collection?

150,000 discreet - karaoke tracks? That would be over a quarter of a million dollars if purchased legally( over $12k per year for 20 years)
Are most of these just foreign language duplicates?
 

dbstudios

DJ I think
Aug 2, 2018
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Walker Michigan
What file format is your karaoke collection?
They are all in mp3 format with a separate attached video file.

150,000 discreet - karaoke tracks? That would be over a quarter of a million dollars if purchased legally
Buying a few here, a few there, and having some cd's given to me by a company I used to work for doing karaoke, it does add up over time.
 
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jaswrx

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Feb 15, 2015
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I will report back when Serato gets back to me, but just b/c, have you tried just loading in one track? Having a mp3 with a separate video files seems odd.
 
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jaswrx

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Feb 15, 2015
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have you scan and analyzed all tracks. Maybe you have some corrupt files?

I wasn't aware that Serato could even work with Karaoke files being that the video is separate from the audio, but since you loaded a few, that's not the issue

When you startup Serato, is it crashing right away (before even playing). Do you have the hardware disconnected, and it still crashes after you try starting up. Just trying to get a better sense...
 
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ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
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Western Maryland
It works on one - but not the other? What types of machines are these? Has this large library ever worked on the old one?
 
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dbstudios

DJ I think
Aug 2, 2018
128
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Walker Michigan
wait, what??
I have 2 laptops I use for DJing, one older Dell (about 4 years old now running win10), it crashes serato when I attempt to load karaoke on that, but it works fine with my music. A new HP that I purchased in january for school (it's currently my backup computer), that I loads karaoke, but slows down a lot.
 

jaswrx

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Feb 15, 2015
195
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this changes everything!!!!

The fact that it doesn't crash on one and then the other tells me it's not a large file issue and has nothing to do with Serato handling large libraries.

Btw, Serato is not designed to handle Karaoke files...

Sounds like you need more memory.

So on the one computer that crashes, it's not crashing when you start the program, but when you load the track?
 
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ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
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Western Maryland
Because I'm seeing similar results (as others), I would guess the sheer size is immense, hence the slow down. Is the older one using an older version of Serato?
 

ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
12,520
Western Maryland
this changes everything!!!!

The fact that it doesn't crash one one and then the other tells me it's not a large file issue.
Maybe yes, maybe no. It could be crashing due to processor speed and load. Memory size and load. Could be version differences. Could be corruption (file or disk). There are quite a few variables. There needs to be more details to state that.
 
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jaswrx

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Feb 15, 2015
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ya, way too many variables. I am going to limit my questioning to file limit regarding Serato support.
 
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Proformance

DJ Extraordinaire
Nov 6, 2006
3,252
That is how all karaoke music is stored, even on cd's. It's just the way things are. I can load a few hundred with now problems, just not the whole collection.
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Has Serato added support for the zipped karaoke files? If your files are all unzipped I can see why it would be very slow, and is the CDG file itself supported?
 

jaswrx

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Feb 15, 2015
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got a responce from Serato--

"Theres no hard set limit on the amount of files you can import into Serato DJ. Its more an issue of the library size your system can handle."
 

ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
12,520
Western Maryland
got a responce from Serato--

"Theres no hard set limit on the amount of files you can import into Serato DJ. Its more an issue of the library size your system can handle."
Translated - they're saying it's the OS problem. But it's not. My OS and systems can obviously handle my library. Additionally, if you track through Serato's history, they have a known, persistent issue dealing with large libraries.
 

jaswrx

Well-Known DJ
Feb 15, 2015
195
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Translated - they're saying it's the OS problem. But it's not. My OS and systems can obviously handle my library. Additionally, if you track through Serato's history, they have a known, persistent issue dealing with large libraries.


No they followed up by saying hardware. Just have to have the processing power and ram.

Point is, it’s not a current issue.