I have a single QSC K-Sub 1000 that I'm looking to sell and use the money towards something else that will go good with my Yamaha DXR 10's. I like the K-Sub but it just doesn't have the type of bass I'd like. Would a single 12" or 15" pair well with my DXR's? Would love a 18 but too big to fit in my closet where I store my stuff. This is just for my own backyard parties and for friends and family. I'd like to stick to $1K and under for the new sub. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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No offense intended but that K-sub is pretty sucky in my book. I'd sell it off as well. Not really sure what to tell you for a referral as I've gone to a stick system (EV Evolve 50m) and it produces plenty of bottom end. I will tell you that a few months back I put in a pair of Alto 15" subs at a church in place of a pair of K-subs and it was a big improvement. I've had the yorkie LS801p before and the Altos were definitely a step down, but still a lot easier to haul around and they produced plenty of well-balanced bottom end for pretty much any room I put them in.
No offense taken. I had traded a cheap 18" sub for it a few years back. I was looking at the EV ELX200 SP or Yamaha DXS MKII series of subs. Would rather stick with a 12" due to size but might step up to a 15'.
What they're doing with 12" subs these days is impressive. I'd probably stick to 12 as well. I do love pretty much anything with Yamaha stamped on it. I will tell you, this Evolve system is seriously impressive. I've done a number of karaoke and band things and I'm only using a single tower. I went to an open jam last week at a fairly large bar and they had a pair of EV 30m (the size down from mine) that kept up with a full band with no sweat.
If your tops are 10" (voice range) perhaps what you're actually missing is full body mid/low mid - not sub. There's no particular reason the K-sub should not be sufficient. Perhaps you should look more closely at how well your pairing is actually addressing the spectrum.
I agree with Proformance but if you are set on a new sub I would grab some DXS 12s to go with them
Thanks, how would a single DXS12 or DXS15 sound compared to the K-Sub considering it has dual subs?
My cousin is a church pastor and they bought a new place that had an existing sound system with a pair of K-subs. I had an extra pair of Alto 15s that I put in place of the K-subs. No new wiring, no new crossover, just changed out the powered subs. The difference was amazing. Much richer bottom end. It was night/day difference.
I'm surprised and shocked that you don't like the QSC sub. If it's the one a couple of DJs I know uses that sub is a beast. Great sub. It's costly but worth every penny.
I'm a huge QSC fan but those K-subs are just anemic. They make a 1k-watt 18" box that kicks booty but the k-subs just suck.
I personally would pick the 15. the fact they are better matched with the tops would be a good start plus it's more efficient
My brain says 15" Sub. My Heart says 12". My Body, especially my back says no Sub lol
So the K-Sub you have is 74 pounds. If you're comfortable moving that box around, there are plenty of solutions that should work for you.
To Taso's comment... you could look at the RCF SUB 705-AS which is a 15, but it's actually lighter than the one you're using now at 66 pounds + whatever the case weighs.
The stat sheet rates it as 1db louder than your existing K-Sub (who knows how accurate those specs are), but I believe it would have the range to go lower and likely sounds much better.
To Taso's comment... you could look at the RCF SUB 705-AS which is a 15, but it's actually lighter than the one you're using now at 66 pounds + whatever the case weighs.
The stat sheet rates it as 1db louder than your existing K-Sub (who knows how accurate those specs are), but I believe it would have the range to go lower and likely sounds much better.
Advice: stop shopping for new a sub.
Keep the K-sub, ditch the 10"speakers, and replace them with a pair of 15" two way speakers.
Your problem is that you are out outdoors and there is nothing for the sub to couple with. This is why you often find outdoor music stages equipped with two or more times the number large subs as there are mains.
Indoors, your 10" speakers are not in balance with the sub. They are far more efficient and the perceived SPL will always be higher unless you correct for it.
Outdoors, your two way speakers work better in the wind than line arrays, but the disparity with the sound is exacerbated by the lack of coupling. Replace the 10" mains with 15" mains and your sound will improve dramatically with or without the K-sub.
Keep the front edge of the sub driver inline with the drivers of the mains to prevent cancellation and time distortions. Setup in front of a solid wall (building) to further increase your forward energy. Most subs have significant back field energy which is lost if there is no reflective surface.
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This is the correct answer for what you are trying to accomplish, inside vs outside are dramatically different environments and require vastly different execution