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Scott Hanna

Scott Hanna

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I've been using the Ecoflow River2 pro's. Been working excellent. The 2 can do just about any event with plenty of extra power. Each had 780wh. And up to 800w. 17 lbs a piece makes them easy to move around.

Have 2 events same day coming up needing battery power, so I decided to go bigger.

The Ecoflow Delta 2 Max. 50lbs. 2048wh. 2400w.
It's basically 3 of the River2 pro's. So it will handle any event with as much power as I could possibly need.

May come in handy at the cabin too. Also as a home back up. And yes, if crap hit the fan, I could charge these up with solar and then charge the Tesla. Would be slow..and not a lot of miles, but in that situation, I probably wouldn't be in a hurry😁 IMG_6465.jpegIMG_6466.jpeg
 
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How much do the 17 lb units cost?
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Around $450. You can usually find them on sale on their eBay store for around $300(refurbished.. still with 5yr warranty.
 
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If you buy like a 750 watt motor E Bike with a 48V Battery you could charge it up much quicker with that, and then proceed to drive the few miles on the bike vs waiting on the Tesla! This is assuming it is decent weather for bike riding to get to where you need to be.
 
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If you buy like a 750 watt motor E Bike with a 48V Battery you could charge it up much quicker with that, and then proceed to drive the few miles on the bike vs waiting on the Tesla! This is assuming it is decent weather for bike riding to get to where you need to be.
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I have an e-bike. 😁
Lectric Xp2

Love it
 
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My sister rented my battery powered Stage Right Speakers, Stands, Mixer, Speaker Cables, and 12 up lights for her job today. I also gave her my old All Sees Battery Station. It was a portable 280 watt station, and same type of battery the Jackery units use, which I believe is Nickel Cadmium, and not the new Lithium batteries. Anyway, she returned all of my equipment to me late tonight, and there was no battery. We searched her car. It appears she left the battery at the venue way down in Gainesville, VA. She is going to call the venue tomorrow and see if anybody found it there. She will have to drive way out there to grab it next week if they do when she has her next job sort of in the area.

Since that unit was over 6 years old, and I might need a battery solution next weekend (There is power at the ceremony location, but I usually prefer to just use my battery so I don't have to run a long extension cord. I just ordered a Bluetti EB3A. Amazon had a $100 off coupon so it is only $199 right now. It only weighs 10.14 lbs which is like 1.3 lbs more than my AllSees unit was, but this unit has more features This should be sufficient for my needs. If the venue says they don't have my AllSees unit, then she said she will pay me for it, but it's not a big deal. I had it for almost 7 years.
 
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DJ Ricky B said:
It appears she left the battery at the venue way down in Gainesville, VA.
She will have to drive way out there to grab it next week
I just ordered a Bluetti EB3A.
She said she will pay me for it
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That's just anther short list of additional costs and labor associated with battery power and other EV centric priorities.
This will never be me, Too much waste, inefficiency, and negative ecological impact.

Running that extension cord is truly the better thing to do for the environment, as well as my own economic and health benefit. We have a very clean and efficient electrical grid in the U.S. and it does not require that I carry toxic metals from place to place, nor does it pose a portable fire hazard. It has none of the heavy lifting requirements of high current capacity batteries.

Electric bikes IMHO are one step shy of the scooters I see people riding around the local Walmart. I peddle my bike and I walk.

Friday night, the airport shuttle dropped me at the end of line stop. I walked an additional 8 miles to a repair shop where I had left my truck,
Reason my truck was there? Dead Battery. If my cell phone battery wasn't also dead maybe I'd have called for a ride? The thing is - I don't regret the choice and I'm healthier for it,

Batteries have their place. I'm just certain that I don't want that place to be anywhere near the center of my life or my work, They are heavy, unreliable, unpredictable, and the fastest growing waste product on the planet.
 
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I get why you don't want to use a long extension cord. It's about you not wanting someone possibly tripping over the wire and getting hurt. That would make you responsible for any of their injuries and them bringing a lawsuit against you.
 
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That's just anther short list of additional costs and labor associated with battery power and other EV centric priorities.
This will never be me, Too much waste, inefficiency, and negative ecological impact.

Running that extension cord is truly the better thing to do for the environment, as well as my own economic and health benefit. We have a very clean and efficient electrical grid in the U.S. and it does not require that I carry toxic metals from place to place, nor does it pose a portable fire hazard. It has none of the heavy lifting requirements of high current capacity batteries.

Electric bikes IMHO are one step shy of the scooters I see people riding around the local Walmart. I peddle my bike and I walk.

Friday night, the airport shuttle dropped me at the end of line stop. I walked an additional 8 miles to a repair shop where I had left my truck,
Reason my truck was there? Dead Battery. If my cell phone battery wasn't also dead maybe I'd have called for a ride? The thing is - I don't regret the choice and I'm healthier for it,

Batteries have their place. I'm just certain that I don't want that place to be anywhere near the center of my life or my work, They are heavy, unreliable, unpredictable, and the fastest growing waste product on the planet.
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I get why you don't want to use a long extension cord. It's about you not wanting someone possibly tripping over the wire and getting hurt. That would make you responsible for any of their injuries and them bringing a lawsuit against you.
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We can run power cords in paths that do not intersect with foot traffic.
Where they do - we can use appropriate safety techniques.

Mix, the reality of professional staging work is that the best path to a outlet 50 feet away might be 150 feet long.

Most professional analog or data snakes are available up to 300 feet in length, which is just below the digital transmission limit for video, AES50, and similar A/V technologies.

I don't do battery sound systems because I know that if I do - my focus will have shifted to booking the smallest and least interesting/lucrative gigs available, What I can accomplish will be subject to the limitations of the batteries rather than my imagination.

Wireless is incredibly useful - but, we still have a "wire" in the form of Frequency Selection that can easily get overloaded. I spend a good bit of time resolving issues for people who fail to understand that these invisible connections still have certain "wired" properties.
 
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We can run power cords in paths that do not intersect with foot traffic.
Where they do - we can use appropriate safety techniques.

Mix, the reality of professional staging work is that the best path to a outlet 50 feet away might be 150 feet long.

Most professional analog or data snakes are available up to 300 feet in length, which is just below the digital transmission limit for video, AES50, and similar A/V technologies.

I don't do battery sound systems because I know that if I do - my focus will have shifted to booking the smallest and least interesting/lucrative gigs available, What I can accomplish will be subject to the limitations of the batteries rather than my imagination.

Wireless is incredibly useful - but, we still have a "wire" in the form of Frequency Selection that can easily get overloaded. I spend a good bit of time resolving issues for people who fail to understand that these invisible connections still have certain "wired" properties.
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As I said you need to consider safety first with however you do a setup. In certain situations what makes sense is a system eliminating having to run long wires. I bought the Stealth Wireless system for certain times it would be better to use that system instead of using a long wire to connect to a device.

I don't see anything wrong with using a battery powered system where you either don't have an electrical outlet near by far the event you're doing. Also what's with the assumption that if you use a battery powered unit the client is someone who will be looking for a inexpensive DJ?
 
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Also what's with the assumption that if you use a battery powered unit the client is someone who will be looking for a inexpensive DJ?
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"Inexpensive" is your word not mine.

I said "smaller" less interesting, and less lucrative.
Small jobs by definition have less potential both in the experience and the remuneration. (Cheap is a relative term.)

I don't want batteries for anything other than a wireless mic or up light for the kind of jobs I'm doing and want to book.
You're not going to find me on a beach or state park doing a ceremony with a battery powered sound system. That target differs not at all from the DIY a couple might pull off on their own. It' unlikely to create any new business worth pursuing

I wish I had a nickel for every DJ that posts about downsizing their system only to be followed later by gripes about business not being as good as it once was. If we are paying attention we can hear the difference in the voices of the customers and patrons who refer to us as "clever" rather than "professional."

Clever is the same word they use to describe their kids.
 
Proformance said:
That's just anther short list of additional costs and labor associated with battery power and other EV centric priorities.
This will never be me, Too much waste, inefficiency, and negative ecological impact.

Running that extension cord is truly the better thing to do for the environment, as well as my own economic and health benefit. We have a very clean and efficient electrical grid in the U.S. and it does not require that I carry toxic metals from place to place, nor does it pose a portable fire hazard. It has none of the heavy lifting requirements of high current capacity batteries.

Electric bikes IMHO are one step shy of the scooters I see people riding around the local Walmart. I peddle my bike and I walk.

Friday night, the airport shuttle dropped me at the end of line stop. I walked an additional 8 miles to a repair shop where I had left my truck,
Reason my truck was there? Dead Battery. If my cell phone battery wasn't also dead maybe I'd have called for a ride? The thing is - I don't regret the choice and I'm healthier for it,

Batteries have their place. I'm just certain that I don't want that place to be anywhere near the center of my life or my work, They are heavy, unreliable, unpredictable, and the fastest growing waste product on the planet.
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Batteries are not anywhere near the center of my work. But they’ve proven to very helpful in some situations.
If there’s things that can be done to help the environment, I’m all for it. I just don’t believe the environmentalists who believe electric cars are going to save the planet and I don’t believe the fuel fanatics who suddenly think battteries and the mining are going to be the thing that dooms us. The reality is neither side knows. But they have an agenda to push…and they both push it.

These batteries are simply another tool in my tool box. If they happen to help us do a job, we will use that tool. If someone wants to use another tool, great. But I don’t pretend that I’m using a tool or a vehicle because I’ve done long term analysis and know it’s better for the environment. I use it because it’s helping me get the job done the way I want.
 
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Scott Hanna said:
The reality is neither side knows.
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That's not true at all.
The "reality" is there to be found. A lot of it is also intuitive, and very, very basic science and economics.

What you're describing is a personal comfort level that waits for someone else to inform us - in this case by commercial result. That itself is an "agenda" and a costly one while you wait for the cream to rise to the top. The choices here are not simply PC versus MAC - we have governments making laws to outlaw or favor your mobility, your resources, and how you choose to live your life. You owe it to yourself, your family, your neighbors, your country, your world, and your God to figure it out now and know what you will or will not support.

There is nothing wrong with batteries. There is something terribly wrong with an ideology that wants you to ignore just how fragile and insecure electricity is as "fuel." What we are really facing is a new era of slavery. 'Woke' distraction on one hand to breach your common sense while the other hand enslaves you at your electric meter. Climate change is the holy grail of authoritarians - perpetual rule with a mission that can never be completed.

An extinction level event will happen somewhere in the future. Humans will not be the cause of it. We simply don't have that capability, We do however, have with absolute certainty the capacity to impose extreme worldwide cruelty and sufferings in the name of any manner of causes. We are doing it again right now.
 
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That's not true at all.
The "reality" is there to be found. A lot of it is also intuitive, and very, very basic science and economics.

What you're describing is a personal comfort level that waits for someone else to inform us - in this case by commercial result. That itself is an "agenda" and a costly one while you wait for the cream to rise to the top. The choices here are not simply PC versus MAC - we have governments making laws to outlaw or favor your mobility, your resources, and how you choose to live your life. You owe it to yourself, your family, your neighbors, your country, your world, and your God to figure it out now and know what you will or will not support.

There is nothing wrong with batteries. There is something terribly wrong with an ideology that wants you to ignore just how fragile and insecure electricity is as "fuel." What we are really facing is a new era of slavery. 'Woke' distraction on one hand to breach your common sense while the other hand enslaves you at your electric meter. Climate change is the holy grail of authoritarians - perpetual rule with a mission that can never be completed.

An extinction level event will happen somewhere in the future. Humans will not be the cause of it. We simply don't have that capability, We do however, have with absolute certainty the capacity to impose extreme worldwide cruelty and sufferings in the name of any manner of causes. We are doing it again right now.
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You can argue that you use electrical cords because it’s better for the planet all you want. And the environmental extremists on the other end can give you all of their data too about how you are killing the environment with your gas vehicles. It’s not basic science. It’s speculation.
There is fragility in all sources of energy. We’ve been fighting wars over oil for years, so don’t tell me about the stability of oil and gasoline.
Coal is one of the most cost effective way to make electricity today, so don’t tell me how clean it is.
Yes, batteries have their disadvantages too. Lots of things going into making batteries that aren’t great.

Use what you want, But please get off your high horse of using extension cords because of the environmental impact.

This “science” is straight out of the right wing extremism playbook. It’s as silly as the left wing extremists stuff.

Ironically, all for the science and opinions you mentioned can be found on infowars. You and Alex Jones are in locked step.
 
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My Bluetti came in. From order to my door step was like 36Screenshot_20240909-145921_BLUETTI.jpg hours. This is certainly a larger unit than my compact AllSEES one I had. I am hopeful that it lasts longer per charge, but we will see. This came with an app. Charging my Bose S1 Pro up it is using 99 watts of discharge. My son plugged in his phone, and it discharges at 6 watts for the phone charging up.

It arrived with a 56% charge. I plugged it in, and it only took like 35 minutes to charge up completely which is impressive.
 
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My Bluetti came in. From order to my door step was like 36View attachment 55539 hours. This is certainly a larger unit than my compact AllSEES one I had. I am hopeful that it lasts longer per charge, but we will see. This came with an app. Charging my Bose S1 Pro up it is using 99 watts of discharge. My son plugged in his phone, and it discharges at 6 watts for the phone charging up.

It arrived with a 56% charge. I plugged it in, and it only took like 35 minutes to charge up completely which is impressive.
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Quit poisoning the planet!!😁
 
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