Mixxx 2.2.0 Beta

steve149

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Handinon

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Nope... Mixxx sees Channels 1 & 2, but not Channels 3 & 4. So no, it does not work. I lost the bet.

I’ll be honest with you. I have a NI Audio 2 DJ in my Small System rack, and it worked fine with Traktor and my Surface Pro or Laptop. However, I didn’t like using a computer and software WITHOUT a controller or mixer. I need knobs and faders, which is why I added the WeGO to my Small System.
I hear ya, but -

For years I ran my Vestax Typhoon's on 32 bit Serato, and 32 bit Mixvibes Cross. Cross required Vestax's ASIO driver, but Serato didn't, which I never could figure out - I just assumed they had somehow stuck the ASIO driver in the .exe file.

First, Serato went 64 bit and, low and behold, the Typhoon's still worked, even though I'm certain Vestax NEVER wrote 64 bit drivers for it!! I still don't know why this works - no clues in Device Manager when it's running either. Next, I figure might as well move everything to 64 bit, including Mixvibes Cross. For that, I've been using the NI AUDIO 2 DJ with it's 64 bit ASIO driver, and simply using the Typhoon's as MIDI controller's, bypassing their internal sound cards. Works great, I've done a number of gigs this way.

So now, 64 bit Mixxx on Linux w/the AUDIO 2 DJ - looks like it's going to require me putting on my thinking cap!!
 
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DJ Bobcat

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I hear ya, but -

For years I ran my Vestax Typhoon's on 32 bit Serato, and 32 bit Mixvibes Cross. Cross required Vestax's ASIO driver, but Serato didn't, which I never could figure out - I just assumed they had somehow stuck the ASIO driver in the .exe file.

First, Serato went 64 bit and, low and behold, the Typhoon's still worked, even though I'm certain Vestax NEVER wrote 64 bit drivers for it!! I still don't know why this works - no clues in Device Manager when it's running either. Next, I figure might as well move everything to 64 bit, including Mixvibes Cross. For that, I've been using the NI AUDIO 2 DJ with it's 64 bit ASIO driver, and simply using the Typhoon's as MIDI controller's, bypassing their internal sound cards. Works great, I've done a number of gigs this way.

So now, 64 bit Mixxx on Linux w/the AUDIO 2 DJ - looks like it's going to require me putting on my thinking cap!!
Have you tried the Mixxx forum?


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I hear ya, but -

For years I ran my Vestax Typhoon's on 32 bit Serato, and 32 bit Mixvibes Cross. Cross required Vestax's ASIO driver, but Serato didn't, which I never could figure out - I just assumed they had somehow stuck the ASIO driver in the .exe file.

First, Serato went 64 bit and, low and behold, the Typhoon's still worked, even though I'm certain Vestax NEVER wrote 64 bit drivers for it!! I still don't know why this works - no clues in Device Manager when it's running either. Next, I figure might as well move everything to 64 bit, including Mixvibes Cross. For that, I've been using the NI AUDIO 2 DJ with it's 64 bit ASIO driver, and simply using the Typhoon's as MIDI controller's, bypassing their internal sound cards. Works great, I've done a number of gigs this way.

So now, 64 bit Mixxx on Linux w/the AUDIO 2 DJ - looks like it's going to require me putting on my thinking cap!!
Well... Since I KNOW for sure Mixxx 2.2.1 works GREAT with Zorin 15 and an American Audio VMS 4.1, you could just do that... Pick up a cheap used VMS 4.1 on eBay...



... FOR ONLY $1,561.56!!!


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I saw that one too, but in the description it said; “Used and lots of signs of usage.” You couldn’t see it so much from the pictures, but it looked like it needed a good cleaning at the very least.


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I believe you have to buy the $99 video add-on for Serato (I have Serato DJ) .. Cross Pro 4 would also cost me $100 to get video. If they were superior audio apps, I might consider, though I never got in the flow with Serato. I also have Traktor, which is fine, but no video.

PCDJ was my first app and I went back to it a couple years ago. Does most things, though I would REALLY like Spotify capability like DJay Pro does. If DJay Pro had video on Windows and karaoke .. I would switch today.
DJay Pro sucks on Win. Spend your money somewhere else.
 

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... So now, 64 bit Mixxx on Linux w/the AUDIO 2 DJ - looks like it's going to require me putting on my thinking cap!!
So my AKAI AMX was just sitting there on the table beside this Zorin Linux Laptop/American Audio VMS 4.1 setup (experiment) and I thought; what the hey??? So I plugged the USB cable from the AMX into the laptop, and turned it on. Surprisingly, I was able to setup the Mixxx Sound Hardware successfully, but even though my AMX was found by the Controller setup, there was NO MIDI map for it. I’d either have to create the midi map, or just use it (the AMX) as a sound card and control the software with the mouse and keyboard. One other downside is the AMX has no microphone input, which is why I’m using my Alto ZMX52 with it.



... If I have to use the software controls only anyway, why not something that’s just a sound card... like a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro???



So I popped that into the laptop and hooked it up to my Alto mixer and I was able to configure and use both decks in Mixxx, plus I setup the headphones to play from my computer analog headphone jack...



... I could have run the headphone output from the computer into the AUX input on my Alto mixer in order to plug my headphones into the mixer’s headphone jack and have a volume control for it. I’m gonna try it at some point (need to find the right cable), but it was not necessary to prove this setup out. It’s functional... MONO only, but functional.
 
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... I could have run the headphone output from the computer into the AUX input on my Alto mixer in order to plug my headphones into the mixer’s headphone jack and have a volume control for it. I’m gonna try it at some point (need to find the right cable)...
Found the cable and hooked it up (from my computer headphone jack to the Aux input on the Alto mixer)...



... and of course it worked just as I anticipated. The Alto ZMX52 has this hand-dandy little button (just above the headphone volume knob)...



... that sends the Aux In signal to the headphones (TO PHONES), so when you select the headphone for a deck in Mixxx, that’s what you hear from the headphone jack of the mixer. Works perfectly, though the headphone volume isn’t exactly gonna burst anyone’s ear drums unless you turn the headphone gain WAY up using the HEAD GAIN control (fake knob) on the Mixxx screen.

Could I mix with this setup at a live event???... In a pinch, perhaps, but I need real knobs and faders. Controlling the software with a mouse just doesn’t do it for me. Think I’ll stick with my American Audio VMS 4.1 controller.
 
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I tried to connect my NI Audio 2 DJ using the same configuration as with the Sound Blaster X-Fi Go!, but it didn’t work. Zorin plays through it fine, but Mixxx won’t allow you to set it up for two decks. So the NI Audio 2 DJ is a NO GO with Zorin Linux and Mixxx 2.2.1.
 

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Since Mixxx can support more than one sound card at the same time (huge benefit), I've had no problems doing exactly the same thing - the Master output from a high quality USB sound card, headphones from the laptops internal one.

The issue with the "NI Audio 2 DJ" is that at some point, Ubuntu stopped support for it, and started support for the "second generation" of this card, the "Traktor Audio 2" (not the "third" 1/8" output jack version which is a completely different animal). Neither I nor Bobcat (i think) have that version.
 
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Since Mixxx can support more than one sound card at the same time (huge benefit), I've had no problems doing exactly the same thing - the Master output from a high quality USB sound card, headphones from the laptops internal one.

The issue with the "NI Audio 2 DJ" is that at some point, Ubuntu stopped support for it, and started support for the "second generation" of this card, the "Traktor Audio 2" (not the "third" 1/8" output jack version which is a completely different animal). Neither I nor Bobcat (i think) have that version.
So you think if I had the Traktor Audio 2 it would work? Do you have info that leads you to believe that?

One thing I can say... the difference in volume between the NI Audio 2 DJ and the Sound Blaster is SIGNIFICANT, so if a Traktor Audio 2 would work, it would almost certainly be preferable.
 
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So you think if I had the Traktor Audio 2 it would work? Do you have info that leads you to believe that?

One thing I can say... the difference in volume between the NI Audio 2 DJ and the Sound Blaster is SIGNIFICANT, so if a Traktor Audio 2 would work, it would almost certainly be preferable.
Not first hand, but in Linux, go look at /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/profile-sets , and also /lib/udev/rules.d/90-pulseaudio.rules

Traktor's other cards ARE listed there, which I believe do work. Besides, if you get a Traktor Audio 2 and it doesn't work, you can always give it to me!!
 
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... Besides, if you get a Traktor Audio 2 and it doesn't work, you can always give it to me!!
HA!!!... Not sure I wanna spend $75-$100 for a Traktor Audio 2 when I already know I don’t like not having the tactile controls of a mixer or controller. It’s FUN to play with though.

I have a couple of these little Sound Blaster X-Fi Go!’s. I used one with my laptop before I got the Audio 2 DJ, and one is plugged into the back of the light control/video/backup computer in my Large System to provide a Line In jack (to accept audio from my main System to supply music visualization software), rather plugging the line in cable into the jack on the front. It might be fun to see if two Sound Blaster X-Fi Go!’s would work with Mixxx to allow two channels for each deck???
 

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HA!!!... Not sure I wanna spend $75-$100 for a Traktor Audio 2 when I already know I don’t like not having the tactile controls of a mixer or controller. It’s FUN to play with though.
Agreed. I've got a lot on the fire right now - if & when I get some free time, I'll try editing those files those files to work with the old version. I think the only real difference is their firmware - they use the same DAC.
 
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... It might be fun to see if two Sound Blaster X-Fi Go!’s would work with Mixxx to allow two channels for each deck???
Yep... it works good... I used the Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! and a little Saberent USB sound card (stick) plugged into Channels 4-5 of the Alto mixer, and it works OK. The Saberent sound card has an annoying whine at high volume, but it proved the concept. I didn’t want to take my other Sound Blaster out of my Large System because it’s plugged into the back of one of my nano PC’s underneath the Denon MC6000MK2, which is screwed to the top rack rails.