Looks like no Sub use at both of my weddings this weekend

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Tomorrow's wedding is at a BIG Horse Farm, and nearest neighbor looks to be like .4 miles away from them. Not sure, but the groom thought that it might be because maybe they had issues with the subs affecting the horses. 7 hour wedding ceremony and reception and no sub. Oh well.

My wedding on Sunday is an old Mansion, and they also have a No Subs policy as well as "no speakers on the floor" policy AND NO TAPE ON FLOOR POLICY INCLUDING GAFFERS TAPE. So My Line Arrays are not going to be used. I also won't tape anything down. I don't want to chance bringing the Harbinger MLS1000s and getting into a discussion about it with the venue manager. They also have a "Music and voice for ceremony must be kept at a low volume. No outside volume higher than 75 DB" Rule as well. ...I have deejayed at this venue 3 times before with the ceremony included and have had zero issues with the venue staff about it, but it is a policy there.

So it's my Alto Speakers on stands for reception, and Bose S1 Pros on stands for ceremony for both events this weekend.

It's kind of a bummer though imo just because I feel like it takes some of the fun out of these receptions. Both of these weddings are over 130 guests, and I would absolutely use Subs if these rules were not in place for this size event.
 
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Sorry to say this. I understand your position and I agree with you. However it's their house. That means they have the right to make their own rules. As long as the rules don't violate an ordinance. If you don't like the rules you have a choice. Don't agree to do anymore event at either of those venues. Once you agree with doing an event at either of these venues, you're obligated to abide by their rules.

Where you live don't you have things you won't allow a person to do if they live there or are a guest. We are vendors coming to do an event in a venue. If we don't own the venue we're guest in the venue and that means we are to abide by their rules. It doesn't matter if we like or agree with the rules. There are some venues I have worked in where a person working in the venue is very rude. I just keep my composure and don't get into it with them. Just do my best at the event and when it's over thank them for having me do the event for them. After that I have to decide if I want to work at that venue again. It doesn't happen often what I just posted.

There was an event we did many years ago at the Galloping Hill Inn and was forced to keep the music down to a whisper. So low that we had a very hard time trying to hear how to hear how to mix in the next song. We have agreed to work there again and thankfully we have never came across that issue again. I don't know if that guy was having a bad day or not. We just did what we were told.
 
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Using the right tools to get the job done properly is what's important along with clean sound.
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Someone using your account Mixxy? Knowledge & experience is very helpful.
 
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Someone using your account Mixxy? Knowledge & experience is very helpful.
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No it's me. Tunes4046 just likes to think he's right most of the time. He has plenty of knowledge and that's great. Now depending on the size of the room, how many people will be at the event and the type of event it is a DJ just might have to use at least one sub. There are times I wish we didn't have to use the Yorkville 801P sub because of the weight but without it the sound wouldn't be right.
 
Yorkville's where nice subs 25 years ago.
Someone on the forum had ETX sub
For $2200 what deal for the EV'S
 
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Let's look at it this way. Most people who own a venue don't know anything about DJ equipment and what a DJ needs to use to make a event a success. Then in any city or town they have ordinances that tell what is allowed and what isn't allowed in a particular area. If the owner doesn't comply with the ordinances they can be hit with a big fine or get shut down so they can't make money off the venue. So in certain situations their hands are tied. It’s our job to go along with what the venue rules are and not make a fuss. It's just that simple. It doesn't feel good at times and it limits us with our performance. Now if their rules are too strict I just don't bother agreeing to work a event at that venue anymore. There are plenty of venues in Jersey and outside of Jersey I can work at.
 
Well I rocked that wedding tonight. I got great compliments from the venue manager and Owner. They both told me that I am the best DJ they have ever had in their 10 years of operation there! They asked for some business cards. The venue owner was a really nice guy in his late 60s. Maybe early 70s. He said he has had to un plug a DJ's equipment TWICE in the past because they were playing way way too loud. One guy they actually request that their couples NOT because he was hard to work with, and kept playing past the end time of the event by a long shot, and was simply very unpleasant to work with. The Manager told me that most DJs play way too loud during dinner, and I was perfect.

I got raves from the bride and groom at the end of the night. Honestly, this reception fizzled out right around 8:50ish. Which was right at the 6 hour mark. People were leaving in mass between 8:50 to 9:15. The last 45 minutes I was playing for like a few dancers. The Bride and Groom were outside at a Bon Fire like 250 feet away smoking blunts with their friends LOL. They were both drunk and high. I told the groom I already know he is sleeping in tomorrow lol.

So my point is that 6 hours for a ceremony and reception truly is the sweet spot. That 7th hour is too much to end on a real good note as most of the guests leave at that point. I was basically taking off the wall requests the last hour and playing to a dance floor of like 4 to 8 dancers until even they decided they had enough and left as I was starting the very last song of the night. Requests for artists like "Damun Jones - My Town and Feeling Good" Never played those songs before, but the few dancers liked them.

Quick Story. I was having a rough start to my day. I was getting ready to head out, and I noticed that the passenger side rear tire of my Traverse had a BIG BOLT in the tread. This was at 12:10 pm and I had a 56 minute drive ahead of me to the venue for a 3 pm ceremony start time. I quickly decided not to chance driving with that bolt in my tire, and transferred all my equipment to my Toyota Camry. I still had to stop by my storage unit before hitting the road to get my Ceremony mixer that I forgot when I loaded my Traverse up the night before. So after loading the Camry while yelling a few choice cuss words to release my anger I drive up there which is about an 8 minute drive, grab my mixer, then I realize that I LEFT MY PLANNING FORM/TIMELINE papers at home. So then I proceed to drive back home to grab those, then finally on my way to the venue at 12:45. I was trying to make good time so I was certainly speeding, and of course I hit a 10 minute traffic jam on I95. Needless to say I arrived at the venue at 1:45 PM. I set up the ceremony system as quick as I could and then proceeded to set up reception. Got everything except my light effect stand set up before I had to run back to start the ceremony. (I was only providing Microphones for the officiant and a speech so I did not have to play music for the ceremony thank fully. I hustled, sweated A LOT, and got everything for the most part set up in 1 hour and 15 minutes.

It was a rough start today. I'll get the tire taken care of on the Traverse later this week. I have round 2 today. Wedding ceremony starting at 5:15 pm for a 5 to 10 wedding. I am playing music for the ceremony at this one though. At least I don't need to get on the road until 2 pm. Today was a long day. Time for bed!
 
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DJ Ricky B said:
Well I rocked that wedding tonight. I got great compliments from the venue manager and Owner. They both told me that I am the best DJ they have ever had in their 10 years of operation there! They asked for some business cards. The venue owner was a really nice guy in his late 60s. Maybe early 70s. He said he has had to un plug a DJ's equipment TWICE in the past because they were playing way way too loud. One guy they actually request that their couples NOT because he was hard to work with, and kept playing past the end time of the event by a long shot, and was simply very unpleasant to work with. The Manager told me that most DJs play way too loud during dinner, and I was perfect.

I got raves from the bride and groom at the end of the night. Honestly, this reception fizzled out right around 8:50ish. Which was right at the 6 hour mark. People were leaving in mass between 8:50 to 9:15. The last 45 minutes I was playing for like a few dancers. The Bride and Groom were outside at a Bon Fire like 250 feet away smoking blunts with their friends LOL. They were both drunk and high. I told the groom I already know he is sleeping in tomorrow lol.

So my point is that 6 hours for a ceremony and reception truly is the sweet spot. That 7th hour is too much to end on a real good note as most of the guests leave at that point. I was basically taking off the wall requests the last hour and playing to a dance floor of like 4 to 8 dancers until even they decided they had enough and left as I was starting the very last song of the night. Requests for artists like "Damun Jones - My Town and Feeling Good" Never played those songs before, but the few dancers liked them.

Quick Story. I was having a rough start to my day. I was getting ready to head out, and I noticed that the passenger side rear tire of my Traverse had a BIG BOLT in the tread. This was at 12:10 pm and I had a 56 minute drive ahead of me to the venue for a 3 pm ceremony start time. I quickly decided not to chance driving with that bolt in my tire, and transferred all my equipment to my Toyota Camry. I still had to stop by my storage unit before hitting the road to get my Ceremony mixer that I forgot when I loaded my Traverse up the night before. So after loading the Camry while yelling a few choice cuss words to release my anger I drive up there which is about an 8 minute drive, grab my mixer, then I realize that I LEFT MY PLANNING FORM/TIMELINE papers at home. So then I proceed to drive back home to grab those, then finally on my way to the venue at 12:45. I was trying to make good time so I was certainly speeding, and of course I hit a 10 minute traffic jam on I95. Needless to say I arrived at the venue at 1:45 PM. I set up the ceremony system as quick as I could and then proceeded to set up reception. Got everything except my light effect stand set up before I had to run back to start the ceremony. (I was only providing Microphones for the officiant and a speech so I did not have to play music for the ceremony thank fully. I hustled, sweated A LOT, and got everything for the most part set up in 1 hour and 15 minutes.

It was a rough start today. I'll get the tire taken care of on the Traverse later this week. I have round 2 today. Wedding ceremony starting at 5:15 pm for a 5 to 10 wedding. I am playing music for the ceremony at this one though. At least I don't need to get on the road until 2 pm. Today was a long day. Time for bed!
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Glad to have you did a great job at that wedding inspired of the beginning stuff. Let me suggest next time you have a check list of everything you are to use for an event so you make sure you don't forget anything. That way you don't have that issue again.

I'm glad to also hear you kept the volume at a nice level. The way I see it with the 2 other DJs that got the plug pulled on their equipment is they were asked to turn the volume down because it's too loud and they refused to adjust the volume to a satisfactory level. From what you described it sounds like the owner at his age probably can't stand loud music. That's the reason for the volume only being so loud.
 
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No it's me. Tunes4046 just likes to think he's right most of the time. He has plenty of knowledge and that's great. Now depending on the size of the room, how many people will be at the event and the type of event it is a DJ just might have to use at least one sub. There are times I wish we didn't have to use the Yorkville 801P sub because of the weight but without it the sound wouldn't be right.
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Tunes is correct. Subs are just ONE tool, and not necessarily the right tool for a given job. Sound technology has advanced quite a bit and not every job should be approached like it's a stadium show.

I've owned a variety of subs and I'm willing to bet I've only ever used them on less than 5 out of every hundred Disc-Jockey events.

Also, '"sub" with today's column speaker systems doesn't mean the same thing it did in decades past. These are bi-amp systems with each part optimized for it's own duty part. The bottom bin is providing more of the necessary spectrum than simply what we know as classic "sub-bass" frequencies. You're generally not going to find anyone using an Evolve system without the bins.
 
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Tunes is correct. Subs are just ONE tool, and not necessarily the right tool for a given job. Sound technology has advanced quite a bit and not every job should be approached like it's a stadium show.

I've owned a variety of subs and I'm willing to bet I've only ever used them on less than 5 out of every hundred Disc-Jockey events.

Also, '"sub" with today's column speaker systems doesn't mean the same thing it did in decades past. These are bi-amp systems with each part optimized for it's own duty part. The bottom bin is providing more of the necessary spectrum than simply what we know as classic "sub-bass" frequencies. You're generally not going to find anyone using an Evolve system without the bins.
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There you go again. I said it's about using the right gear for the event you're doing. I never said anything about using subs at every event you are doing. Some events subs are not necessary and other events it's a must.
 
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There you go again. I said it's about using the right gear for the event you're doing. I never said anything about using subs at every event you are doing. Some events subs are not necessary and other events it's a must.
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It's obvious by now that you don't have the resources to do any of that.

You own 'subs' because it's your way in with certain other people and the events they are doing.
You should really focus on being a guest - it's so much more genuine.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Glad to have you did a great job at that wedding inspired of the beginning stuff. Let me suggest next time you have a check list of everything you are to use for an event so you make sure you don't forget anything. That way you don't have that issue again.

I'm glad to also hear you kept the volume at a nice level. The way I see it with the 2 other DJs that got the plug pulled on their equipment is they were asked to turn the volume down because it's too loud and they refused to adjust the volume to a satisfactory level. From what you described it sounds like the owner at his age probably can't stand loud music. That's the reason for the volume only being so loud.
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If you use subs for volume you are using them wrong
 
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.4 miles to the next neighbor is not far when it comes to how far sub frequencies carry. I've sworn off sub usage at my place and haven't missed it one bit. My nearest neighbor is about 300 feet away so subs will rattle their windows. I've promised to not use them and, so far, staying on good terms with them.
 
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No not at all. Certain situations subs enhance the sound depending on the music that's to be played.
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Subs will help any music sound better and help the highs and mids carry further but far too often that is not how they are used
 
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