Last night I went to a Halloween party and had a good time.

MIXMASTERMACHOM

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Is it still tacky to hand out business cards at someone else's event if the email And website on the card are incorrect?

Asking for a friend.


My guess is for 15 people in a small room, my S1 would sound better than 4 subs and 4 speakers.

I recall setting up at a venue several years ago. One of those multiple room places. I was setting up in the main ballroom. About 200 people. Right across from me was the smallest room. I was setting up my l1 and these 2 guys were bring in 4 big tops and 4 big subs, and a huge rolling rack of gear in the middle. They kept looking in at my set up as they came by with their dollies. I glanced in their room when I was done. There were 4-8 person tables in this small room. 1 speaker and sub per table😄

These guys were white, BTW😄

I don't get into labeling music racially. I play both kinds of music. Country AND Western😄
Again I will say this. The setup was great simply because he wasn't pushing things to the limit. He kept everything at a good volume so things weren't screaming.
 

MIXMASTERMACHOM

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But why? Why bring in more equipment than necessary? Why risk the injury to your back? To your equipment? To your body? Are you showing off? It's like, why would you drive a semi truck & trailer to haul and shoe box? It's sill and totally unnecessary.
It's what the committee would expect from any DJ doing an event for them. If you bring in anything other wise you will never be asked to do another event event for that committee.
 

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It's what the committee would expect from any DJ doing an event for them. If you bring in anything other wise you will never be asked to do another event event for that committee.
When the pay is so low, maybe that's a GOOD thing ...
 

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It's not about that one committee. It's about others who are there and might want you to do an event for another committee.
Another free or low cost event ... maybe when you realize that these ARE NOT going to bring in any large, well paying jobs (they haven't in the many years you've done events for "committees"), you'll look at like a BUSINESS and either bring an appropriate amount of gear for the few people that come (and I'm serious about a pair of 8" speakers) .. or you'll kindly decline the opportunity and move to something that DOES.
 

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Again I will say this. The setup was great simply because he wasn't pushing things to the limit. He kept everything at a good volume so things weren't screaming.
I'm sure it sounded fine. I do understand how the volume knob works.

I do also understand that some DJ's think clients will be impressed with bringing tons of equipment to a small gathering. I don't believe it's true. Having 4 speakers and 4 subs in a small room can completely overtake the LOOK of a room. Most people don't want to stare at speakers. They want good sound. If the DJ didn't know how many people were coming, he probably should have gotten a clue based on the size of the room.

Some DJ's have a hard time seeing things from a client's perspective, which makes it a lot more difficult to book money making gigs.
 

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I'm sure it sounded fine. I do understand how the volume knob works.

I do also understand that some DJ's think clients will be impressed with bringing tons of equipment to a small gathering. I don't believe it's true. Having 4 speakers and 4 subs in a small room can completely overtake the LOOK of a room. Most people don't want to stare at speakers. They want good sound. If the DJ didn't know how many people were coming, he probably should have gotten a clue based on the size of the room.

Some DJ's have a hard time seeing things from a client's perspective, which makes it a lot more difficult to book money making gigs.
Again no issues with the setup he used. It was fine and it's not just about a volume knob. It's also about controlling things from the controller as well. As I stated as you know it's about knowing what to do which I know you know your stuff.

The other event I attended in Paterson, NJ he used 2 subs and 4 tops. The tops were the newer version of the Mackie Thumps. He had the tops screaming. The crowd didn't know it was screaming. The sound was distorted instead of being nice and smooth. The DJ could mix his butt off. So he gets stars for that.

When I do the event it won't be screaming. It will be nice and smooth.
 

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Ok you win. I still say it's all about what knowing what to do. You can have not the best gear but if you know how to set things up you can make it sound decent.
I agree and we are hoping some day you might start to learn what to do .. :)
 

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It's what the committee would expect from any DJ doing an event for them. If you bring in anything other wise you will never be asked to do another event event for that committee.
So the committee bases a person's worth on how much equipment one brings in and not on an actual performance? If true, it now makes sense why they keep asking you to come back.

Again no issues with the setup he used. It was fine and it's not just about a volume knob. It's also about controlling things from the controller as well. As I stated as you know it's about knowing what to do which I know you know your stuff.

The other event I attended in Paterson, NJ he used 2 subs and 4 tops. The tops were the newer version of the Mackie Thumps. He had the tops screaming. The crowd didn't know it was screaming. The sound was distorted instead of being nice and smooth. The DJ could mix his butt off. So he gets stars for that.

When I do the event it won't be screaming. It will be nice and smooth.
Time is money. It takes at most, 15 minutes to setup 2 tops (this would have been more than adequate) vs 60 minutes or more for 8 speakers. As already stated, this is like using a tractor trailer to move a shoebox. You want people to be impressed with the amount of gear - they're not. You can, however, impress them with skills.

Ok you win. I still say it's all about what knowing what to do. You can have not the best gear but if you know how to set things up you can make it sound decent.
You're right - it is about knowing what to do. 4 subs and 4 tops for 15 people is not knowing what to do. Until you are willing to see the errors in this logic and actually learn, you will continue on the path you're on.
 
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Again no issues with the setup he used. It was fine and it's not just about a volume knob. It's also about controlling things from the controller as well. As I stated as you know it's about knowing what to do which I know you know your stuff.

The other event I attended in Paterson, NJ he used 2 subs and 4 tops. The tops were the newer version of the Mackie Thumps. He had the tops screaming. The crowd didn't know it was screaming. The sound was distorted instead of being nice and smooth. The DJ could mix his butt off. So he gets stars for that.

When I do the event it won't be screaming. It will be nice and smooth.
Time is money. It takes at most, 15 minutes to setup 2 tops (this would have been more than adequate) vs 60 minutes or more for 8 speakers.

Ok you win. I still say it's all about what knowing what to do. You can have not the best gear but if you know how to set things up you can make it sound decent.
You're right - it is about knowing what to do. 4 subs and 4 tops for 15 people is not knowing what to do.
 

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So the committee bases a person's worth on how much equipment one brings in and not on an actual performance? If true, it now makes sense why they keep asking you to come back.


Time is money. It takes at most, 15 minutes to setup 2 tops (this would have been more than adequate) vs 60 minutes or more for 8 speakers. As already stated, this is like using a tractor trailer to move a shoebox. You want people to be impressed with the amount of gear - they're not. You can, however, impress them with skills.



You're right - it is about knowing what to do. 4 subs and 4 tops for 15 people is not knowing what to do. Until you are willing to see the errors in this logic and actually learn, you will continue on the path you're on.
AGAIN WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS LIKE THIS THE COMMITTEE GIVING THE EVENT CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL ATTEND THE EVENT! Better to have more than needed then needing more and don't have it. That's where an inexperienced DJ will try to make up for what they don't have by turning the volume all the way up causing distortion and possibly damaging speakers. The event I'm doing on the 30th I don't know how many will attend the event. I'm just planning on bringing enough for the event just in case it is a big crowd that stays for the dance. The gear I used in Jersey City was perfect for the room and the event.
 

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You are 100% absolutely wrong. You've done more than enough of these that you have an exact idea of how many people will stay - you even admitted it in an earlier post. Based on your history of these events, EVERYONE HERE has told you that you don't need what you choose to bring.

Regardless, people will be MUCH more impressed with your ability to perform than they ever will with the amount of equipment. An experienced DJ knows this. How long have you been doing this? And you're acting like this is the first time.

You're not impressing people if you use a tractor trailer to move a shoebox - in fact, they would be like, what a waste of resources. They will be much more impressed if you use a compact car to move it. They'll talk about you - and that's exactly how they'll talk about you. You got very little money for an overdone event.

I'll also add, if you're the only one doing this, how will this happen considering you're disabled?

You never listen to us and in your mind you're always right ... I guarantee you that everyone here already knows the outcome of this event.
 
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You are 100% absolutely wrong. You've done more than enough of these that you have an exact idea of how many people will stay - you even admitted it in an earlier post. Based on your history of these events, EVERYONE HERE has told you that you don't need what you choose to bring.

Regardless, people will be MUCH more impressed with your ability to perform than they ever will with the amount of equipment. An experienced DJ knows this. How long have you been doing this? And you're acting like this is the first time.

You're not impressing people if you use a tractor trailer to move a shoebox - in fact, they would be like, what a waste of resources. They will be much more impressed if you use a compact car to move it. They'll talk about you - and that's exactly how they'll talk about you. You got very little money for an overdone event.

I'll also add, if you're the only one doing this, how will this happen considering you're disabled?

You never listen to us and in your mind you're always right ... I guarantee you that everyone here already knows the outcome of this event.
Again pay attention. I 'm bringing what the crowd is used to a DJ bringing. What others on here suggest I bring for this event would be the last time I ever do an event for them. The committee decides who the DJ will be. Not the people attending the event.
 

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Again pay attention. I 'm bringing what the crowd is used to a DJ bringing. What others on here suggest I bring for this event would be the last time I ever do an event for them. The committee decides who the DJ will be. Not the people attending the event.
The crowd isn't paying you. And if it's the last time, then they really didn't want your "skills" to begin with ...
 

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You know...I',still trying ti wrap my head around unloading and setting up FOUR EV Subs for a party that had like 15 to 25 people. I mean, WTF?

In 20 years I have NEVER set up 4 subs for an event. Maybe I don't get it???

I bring out ONE normally... Two for larger events. A DJ with 4 subs and 25 guests would not impress me.

I find it interesting that you aspire to play Cotton Eye Joe at an event....I only play it by client request on my planning form, OR in the rare instance more than 1 guest requests that I play it.

With Sweet Caroline, I play it at 1 in 3 of my bookings. Most of the time it is on their must play or request list. Just how it is with my clients. Great song. Just Play it at your events..The last Prom I did a couple years back had this heavily requested. I could not believe it, but high school kids were crazy into it! :)
 
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You know...I',still trying ti wrap my head around unloading and setting up FOUR EV Subs for a party that had like 15 to 25 people. I mean, WTF?

In 20 years I have NEVER set up 4 subs for an event. Maybe I don't get it???

I bring out ONE normally... Two for larger events. A DJ with 4 subs and 25 guests would not impress me.

I find it interesting that you aspire to play Cotton Eye Joe at an event....I only play it by client request on my planning form, OR in the rare instance more than 1 guest requests that I play it.

With Sweet Caroline, I play it at 1 in 3 of my bookings. Most of the time it is on their must play or request list. Just how it is with my clients. Great song. Just Play it at your events..The last Prom I did a couple years back had this heavily requested. I could not believe it, but high school kids were crazy into it! :)
No the thing is I said I love those songs and to me they are great songs. I just said I wish I could play it at times for an event. The issue is some will say that's White people's music. To me if a song is great it's just great. Those are some great songs! Some think because I'm Black I'm not supposed to like those songs. If I played them for a certain crowd they would go WTF. That music is when they had artists who had real talent. That's how singers and groups stay around for many years back at that time. EWF has been around for decades because they have real talent. Which they are my favorite group of all time.

The goobers of today a lot of them don't have any talent.