Itunes is going away??

DJ Bobcat

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Nov 8, 2014
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Scott, I take it you have a cellular ipad. Or somehow have your own hotspot?
Do you really need a hotspot anymore??? I own one, but I’m considering ditching it. Most of the venues have WiFi now and my cable company has WiFi hotspots all around town (although the speed sucks). I don’t remember using my hotspot even once last year, so I paid $50 a month just to have something I MIGHT need. If I really need to play a song I don’t have in my library, I can play it from my YouTube or Spotify or wherever from my iPhone using Bluetooth, now that I have that capability on both my DJ rack systems.
 

steve149

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You might need a hotspot if you DJ off the internet (Spotify, Pulselocker, etc), but even then, most services can use a phone as THE hotspot .. no need for a standalone unit these days. You are correct that WiFI is most places .. with Comcast I can use open hotspots most anywhere, though it sometimes is a challenge as it tries to connect to them all along the drive on a suburban back road.
 

Scott Hanna

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Scott, I take it you have a cellular ipad. Or somehow have your own hotspot?
I have 1 iPad that’s cellular. The other one is Wi-Fi only but can use my iPhone or other iPad as hot spot
 

Scott Hanna

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Do you really need a hotspot anymore??? I own one, but I’m considering ditching it. Most of the venues have WiFi now and my cable company has WiFi hotspots all around town (although the speed sucks). I don’t remember using my hotspot even once last year, so I paid $50 a month just to have something I MIGHT need. If I really need to play a song I don’t have in my library, I can play it from my YouTube or Spotify or wherever from my iPhone using Bluetooth, now that I have that capability on both my DJ rack systems.
Most any cell phone these days will be a hot spot

Yes I find myself using it at times. Just don’t need a stand alone one anymore

But I never want to count on someone else’s Wi-Fi, and my spectrum “Wi-Fi around town”is terrible at best
 

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Do you really need a hotspot anymore??? I own one, but I’m considering ditching it. Most of the venues have WiFi now and my cable company has WiFi hotspots all around town (although the speed sucks). I don’t remember using my hotspot even once last year, so I paid $50 a month just to have something I MIGHT need. If I really need to play a song I don’t have in my library, I can play it from my YouTube or Spotify or wherever from my iPhone using Bluetooth, now that I have that capability on both my DJ rack systems.
Your Iphone is a hotspot I use mine all the time for that. I don't know how much data you have or how much you can get for $50 but I think it's probably a better deal and one less piece to carry
 

DJ Bobcat

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Your Iphone is a hotspot I use mine all the time for that. I don't know how much data you have or how much you can get for $50 but I think it's probably a better deal and one less piece to carry
My hotspot is a USB hotspot that plugs into a 3G/4G router. I can’t remember how much data that includes, but it’s for sure WAY more than I’ve ever used. To do it with my phone would cost about the same, but it would have a limit of how many PC’s can connect, which my router does not. It has a practical limit of course, ‘cause how many computers could really share a single cell phone internet connection?


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Scott Hanna

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My hotspot is a USB hotspot that plugs into a 3G/4G router. I can’t remember how much data that includes, but it’s for sure WAY more than I’ve ever used. To do it with my phone would cost about the same, but it would have a limit of how many PC’s can connect, which my router does not. It has a practical limit of course, ‘cause how many computers could really share a single cell phone internet connection?


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I’m not sure the total number of devices my phone or iPad can connect to as a hotspot I know it can do at least 3. I rarely have more than 1 device connected at a time. Anything that is connected at an event, it’s usually just to download a specific song and then I turn the hotspot off.
 

DJ Bobcat

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... Anything that is connected at an event, it’s usually just to download a specific song and then I turn the hotspot off.
That’s what I was sayin’. Rather than download a song, I could just play it from my phone to the Bluetooth receiver built into my Denon mixer or the one attached to the mixer in my Small System rack. Paying for a hotspot just to download and play the occasional track isn’t worth it, especially given the fact that most of the venues have WiFi.
 

steve149

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That’s what I was sayin’. Rather than download a song, I could just play it from my phone to the Bluetooth receiver built into my Denon mixer or the one attached to the mixer in my Small System rack. Paying for a hotspot just to download and play the occasional track isn’t worth it, especially given the fact that most of the venues have WiFi.
I'm still not sold on Bluetooth for anything other than very casual events. I've had them cut out too many times (distances of less than 3 feet) when playing. I have it my system (Denon media player has it), but would prefer an alternative means of connection.
 
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DJ Bobcat

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I'm still not sold on Bluetooth for anything other than very casual events. I've had them cut out too many times (distances of less than 3 feet) when playing. I have it my system (Denon media player has it), but would prefer an alternative means of connection.
I use it (Bluetooth) at home all the time. I have a small receiver attached to the stereo receiver in my living room; and I have receiver with it built-in in my guest room. I play music from my iPhone, iPad, and laptop to those devices frequently, and never had a cut out because of the Bluetooth, even from more than 20 feet away and a couple of walls in between.

I’ve also tested my Denon DN-410X extensively, playing from my tablet while sitting in my living room, to my office (with a kitchen in between) and have never had a cut out. I’ve also tested the little receiver in my Small System... same result. I have not used it at an event, but I’m pretty confident in it if I need to use it. I’ll never need to be more than a couple feet away from the Bluetooth receiver when playing a track from my iPhone at an event.


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steve149

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I use it (Bluetooth) at home all the time. I have a small receiver attached to the stereo receiver in my living room; and I have receiver with it built-in in my guest room. I play music from my iPhone, iPad, and laptop to those devices frequently, and never had a cut out because of the Bluetooth, even from more than 20 feet away and a couple of walls in between.

I’ve also tested my Denon DN-410X extensively, playing from my tablet while sitting in my living room, to my office (with a kitchen in between) and have never had a cut out. I’ve also tested the little receiver in my Small System... same result. I have not used it at an event, but I’m pretty confident in it if I need to use it. I’ll never need to be more than a couple feet away from the Bluetooth receiver when playing a track from my iPhone at an event.


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I use it at home. The times I have lost connection (once on the Alto Transport 12 and twice on the AA ELS GO 8BT) were outdoors using my phone (twice) and an iPad (once) placed nearby. Not sure what caused it .. not sure if it was proximity to another phone?
 

Scott Hanna

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That’s what I was sayin’. Rather than download a song, I could just play it from my phone to the Bluetooth receiver built into my Denon mixer or the one attached to the mixer in my Small System rack. Paying for a hotspot just to download and play the occasional track isn’t worth it, especially given the fact that most of the venues have WiFi.
I don't pay for a hotspot, just using my cellphone data. I would just rather download a song first rather than stream it. Maybe there's no difference, but I feel better:😄

Bluetooth I've had cut out a few times personally. I will use it at a casual event, just would be too nervous to use it for a ceremony. I do have my iPad bluetoothed into my mixer..for an instant back up or occasional song. I just wouldn't feel comfortable planning on doing an event completely with Bluetooth.
 

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Streaming isn't a viable option here...did a wedding saturday at a busy venue and there is NO cell service there. NONE.
Does keep people on the dance floor and interracting with eachother more though!

Anotehr popular venue is in a former bell tell switching facility and is shielded...

Life in the country is FUN!

Once connected iv'e not had bluetooth issues..but connecting at times can be a PITA. I have a speaker that won't let go of it's connection to my better half's iphone. The car does better...but I can be on the phone when she comes home and the car will take over the phone conversation...oops. It's got very good range.

I just got some BT headphones for when out on the tractor - not gonna hang myself with earbuds connected to the phone - but 4' away is all it takes for them to lose connection. Same phone that connects to the car 50' away and moving in the driveway when I'm in the house...

I too, hate the trend to pushing everyone towards streaming-only. I use Amazon, and they keep switching things up and trying to steer people away from buying mp3s. I just don't like streaming at events.
 

djmm

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Recently had a groom at an event tell me he forgot to ask me for a special song for his grandparents. Some 50yo obscure song. Downloaded it from Spotify in seconds...good to go.
How do you download songs from Spotify? I thought it was 100% streaming.
 

steve149

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Actually, music from the iTunes store is in 256K AAC format (variable rate). Probably close to the 320K MP3 quality though when converted.
 
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steve149

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How do you download songs from Spotify? I thought it was 100% streaming.
Spotify Premium allows you to download for offline use. You can download up to 10,000 songs and must go online once every 30 days to keep them there.
 

ittigger

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Actually, music from the iTunes store is in 256K AAC format (variable rate). Probably close to the 320K MP3 quality though when converted.
Correct, I also use iTunes to convert M4A to MP3, which is why I was thinking of M4A. Everything I buy from the iTunes store, I also convert.