How do you define formal/semi-formal?

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There ya go. No mention of any venue. See how easy that was?
I bought my tux when I did my oldest niece wedding. That's my favorite event I've ever done because my mother, father, my mother's boyfriend, the groom's grandfather and the groom were there. All of them are no longer here. My best friend, his wife and oldest daughter were there. My youngest niece was in the bridal party.
 
I bought my tux when I did my oldest niece wedding. That's my favorite event I've ever done because my mother, father, my mother's boyfriend, the groom's grandfather and the groom were there. All of them are no longer here. My best friend, his wife and oldest daughter were there. My youngest niece was in the bridal party.
Another friends and family event, bet nobody had to pay for that one either
 
Another friends and family event, bet nobody had to pay for that one either
What are you talking about?! I don't know who paid for this wedding to be in that venue. All I know is we were the DJ's who played for that wedding.
 
Has it aways been we??
 
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Well, the wedding was Sunday. The bride sent clarifications about what to wear about a week or so before the wedding. I think everyone got the message because no one was in a tux. Some wore dark suits but they were hating life. The ceremony was outdoors in the sun. It was in the mid-80s and bright sun. Some people had sweat just dripping off of them. I wore a very light weight med blue wool suit. I was fine. About a third of the guests got up from the ceremony seating and stayed in the only shade about 50 feet away.

The semi-formal part of the event was like a late night buffet. Some people wore the same outfit as earlier while others were much more casual. One woman dressed in revealing gown more suitable for a formal NYE party. She really stood out. Then again, I think she wanted to. Even though I was just an attendee, I may do a gig report on this one. The wedding was by no means a disaster but there were still many things that could have gone better.
 
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Well, the wedding was Sunday. The bride sent clarifications about what to wear about a week or so before the wedding. I think everyone got the message because no one was in a tux. Some wore dark suits but they were hating life. The ceremony was outdoors in the sun. It was in the mid-80s and bright sun. Some people had sweat just dripping off of them. I wore a very light weight med blue wool suit. I was fine. About a third of the guests got up from the ceremony seating and stayed in the only shade about 50 feet away.

The semi-formal part of the event was like a late night buffet. Some people wore the same outfit as earlier while others were much more casual. One woman dressed in revealing gown more suitable for a formal NYE party. She really stood out. Then again, I think she wanted to. Even though I was just an attendee, I may do a gig report on this one. The wedding was by no means a disaster but there were still many things that could have gone better.
Please do. I want to see what your thoughts are on this one.
 
It’s seems a lot of these guests were just not used to this. I can’t recall a wedding in this immediate area where guests didn’t show up in a suit or nice dress. If someone did they stuck out in a very negative way and assumed they were just not from around here. Im also sure if someone showed up in a nice dark suit or gown at some of the weddings many of you describe, they too would appear out of place. Social norms just vary vastly from area to area and from one social circle to another
 
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It’s seems a lot of these guests were just not used to this. I can’t recall a wedding in this immediate area where guests didn’t show up in a suit or nice dress. If someone did they stuck out in a very negative way and assumed they were just not from around here. Im also sure if someone showed up in a nice dark suit or gown at some of the weddings many of you describe, they too would appear out of place. Social norms just vary vastly from area to area and from one social circle to another

That's one thing that bugs me about my local area. I was always used to suits or at least business casual in Nashville but around here in rural Alabama suits are not the norm and quite often it's blue jeans and t-shirts. I don't typically wear ties myself (so I don't stick out) but I will wear dress shoes, slacks and a golf shirt under a jacket.
 
Wardrobe isn't that big a deal. Most people are able to anticipate and make good decisions. There will always be some people who simply have no social awareness, or are too socially isolated to anticipate what a given gathering might be like. There are still others who are very deliberate in their choices and see every moment in public as an opportunity to make a social statement. The latter circumstance is does not seem to discriminate between people who overdress or under dress. Ego is equally substantial at both ends of the spectrum.
 
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It’s seems a lot of these guests were just not used to this. I can’t recall a wedding in this immediate area where guests didn’t show up in a suit or nice dress. If someone did they stuck out in a very negative way and assumed they were just not from around here. Im also sure if someone showed up in a nice dark suit or gown at some of the weddings many of you describe, they too would appear out of place. Social norms just vary vastly from area to area and from one social circle to another
There was nothing unusual about the wedding attire for the main part of the wedding (ceremony and reception). Everyone was dressed very nice and tasteful. It was just not a black tie event like I had originally thought it would be. The bride had clarified that it wasn't black tie about a week beforehand. Half to 3/4 of the guests were from overseas (mostly Germany, Switzerland and, Israel) although I believe some are now living in the US. Like I said, the only person that stood out was the over-dressed woman for the evening buffet. She looked like she wanted to paint the town. Instead, the buffet was really just a convenience for all the guests that were spending the night at the venue's hotel (Chateau Grande in East Brunswick, if you are wondering). There was no dancing, announcements or other formalities. Had I known that, I would have simply left after the ceremony. Instead I had two big meals within about 4 hours. The food was too good to pass up but my beltline was complaining.

BTW, there was an open bar at this wedding but it was not a heavy drinking crowd. The couple was in their late 50s and most of the guests were their age or older. At one point, my wife felt like we were at a business function rather than a wedding. The bartender mentioned they didn't serve a single beer to our crowd all day. I saw more seltzer being served than anything. They even ran out at one point. The only drunk person I saw was my 91 year old aunt. She is a hoot. I will see the bride and groom at another wedding this weekend. I will get their take on things but I think they were happy with how things went.
 
For my wedding this Saturday I was SPECIFICALLY TOLD TO NOT DRESS UP!

The groom told me that he and the grooms men are going to be dressed in "NOT EXPENSIVE" Khaki pants, and button up shirts WITH NO TIE. He told me to not wear a tie to this one, and dress comfortably! He is a big heavy guy, and they are having a summer wedding on a farm. He is also a working guitar player, and typically wears Shorts and T Shirt at the gigs he does.

He told me to wear a short sleeved button up shirt or a polo shirt and said make sure you are comfortable. It is a 7 hour long wedding ceremony and reception.

This will be the most casually dressed I have been to do a wedding likely ever.
 
There are still others who are very deliberate in their choices and see every moment in public as an opportunity to make a social statement. The latter circumstance is does not seem to discriminate between people who overdress or under dress. Ego is equally substantial at both ends of the spectrum.

I actually agree with this whole heartedly.

I honestly don't care what people wear generally speaking. However, I do care if I see a guy with their pants hanging off of their ass showing their butts. This was a wardrobe issue popularized by Hip Hop and Rap culture in every day life 8-20ish years. I am not seeing it much any more, and am glad it is far less prevalent in my area. I am sure it is still common in many cities though.

I actually told some dudes their pants were falling down at the mall in the past with a dead serious look on my face. I wanted to see what their reaction would be. One of them looked at me like I was the dumb one even telling them that :laugh: One of them pulled their pants up like 2 inches as a half assed way of correcting their pants only for them to slip back down again as they continued to walk.
 
I actually agree with this whole heartedly.

I honestly don't care what people wear generally speaking. However, I do care if I see a guy with their pants hanging off of their ass showing their butts. This was a wardrobe issue popularized by Hip Hop and Rap culture in every day life 8-20ish years. I am not seeing it much any more, and am glad it is far less prevalent in my area. I am sure it is still common in many cities though.

I actually told some dudes their pants were falling down at the mall in the past with a dead serious look on my face. I wanted to see what their reaction would be. One of them looked at me like I was the dumb one even telling them that :laugh: One of them pulled their pants up like 2 inches as a half assed way of correcting their pants only for them to slip back down again as they continued to walk.
I think the hip-hop clothing brands were actually designed to be worn that way (which is why they don't fall off!) But those lines actually carried designer prices too, so many people just imitated it using their belts and scrunching it up.

Hip-hop in general is a F* you message - and that's what the clothing says in public. We don't get from where we were to where we are in society today without this counter-culture initiative. We can say what we want about the music - but, everything surrounding it is/was and remains a CHOICE.
 
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One of my oldest friends runs a tuxedo shop.
From what he told me....

Black Tie - Black tuxedo, white shirt, black tie. (white jackets are also acceptable)
Formal - Tuxedo, or black suit with conservative tie
Cocktail - Suit and tie
Semi Formal - Dress shirt and slacks, optional jacket and tie
 
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