EV Vs Bose

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Well back to topic having owned a dual Bose L1 with quad bin setup and running that for almost 2 years I switched to the EV Tour X system with two 15s and two 18s.... the biggest difference in my mind is the difference in the way the bass feels.... and how sound propigates in the room...

Sound dispersion Bose wins
Richness and clarity of sound both are equal.
Punchiness (ie. How it sounds and feels) EV wins
System weight Bose is obviously lighter but has more components.
Setup time.... I'd say EV is just marginally quicker from load in to sound check ready.

Overall depending on how you want to approach sound reinforcement either system will get the job done its just a matter of end results and personality...
 
Sorry my comment was perceived as a dig at Bose, that was not my intention. Quite the contrary. Their DSPs are amazing and they take seemingly ordinary 4" drivers and created great sounding audio with extraordinarily wide dispersion and some sort of steering that I really don't understand. I love the sound, very similar to near field monitors and audiophile home systems. I readily admit that I'm a geek and would love to have the L1's for small/medium events, however, I cannot justify the cost.
 
I hear and see that alot of you are talking about L1's. Keep in mind I asked about the Bose 802's with the Bose 302's and the EV 112's with the 118's. I have a friend running the Bose system and I wonder if there would be a difference by trying out the Ev's.
 
I hear and see that alot of you are talking about L1's. Keep in mind I asked about the Bose 802's with the Bose 302's and the EV 112's with the 118's. I have a friend running the Bose system and I wonder if there would be a difference by trying out the Ev's.

Just a guess here, but it doesn't seem anybody here actually runs that exact setup you mention... ;)

That in itself, should probably tell you something.

If yer buddy has that setup, why not take a CD over and listen to it, then take the same CD and listen to it on somebodies EV system...?
 
Ricky, I will be testing these exact setups - just wanted your opinions before I got to it. I do know that Cam runs the 112's and the 118's. Rick runs the 112's. I don't know who else does and I have no idea who runs anything in Bose world. This will be in a typical fire hall type building, holds about 150 people. Their current system is the (2) Bose 802's with (1) Bose 302. The testee will be (2) EV 112's stacked on EV 118's (think it'll be difficult to double 'em up in the center).

FWIW: I've thought about the L1's too but for the cost, I see no reason to ditch my gear because my stuff works absolutely fine and I do get compliments on my setups.

:)
 
All I can say, is I'll never ditch my Peaveys.

Right now, they are holding up some shelves, with over 1.000 pounds on them (and have been doing so for about a year, without flinching). :)


I'm not fond of the 802's, although I have a couple customers who swear by them. Keep in mind, that's a couple, out of many, many tens of thousands.

Just my personal opinion, but I would use a set of Polks first, and that would mean somebody stole my real speakers. ;)
 
All I can say, is I'll never ditch my Peaveys.

Right now, they are holding up some shelves, with over 1.000 pounds on them (and have been doing so for about a year, without flinching). :)


I'm not fond of the 802's, although I have a couple customers who swear by them. Keep in mind, that's a couple, out of many, many tens of thousands.

Just my personal opinion, but I would use a set of Polks first, and that would mean somebody stole my real speakers. ;)

I'm TOTALLY with you Ricky. I love my Peavey's too!

Long Live The Black Widow!
 
Used and configured properly the Bose 802s are fine speakers but they do have their limitations, especially if used as full range. I mainly use them for Mids and Highs (No Bass). I also use them as back up speakers for my Tweeter section or Midrange section in my 3 way system. In a restaurant setting or for Breakfast meetings which do not require any high level of SPL, they performed to my satisfaction. When choosing a system you also have to take into consideration its use...weddings, outdoor events, clubs/bars, for background music, stage use, prom use etc. plus the venue Not all speakers are designed to do all the above no matter how many multiples you add.
 
True...the BOSE will give a Bass that is more "heard" than "felt". The 302's or the B-1 bins. It will not produce the chest crushing thump of a large 18 but for acoustic accuracy, I still prefer the BOSE, but that's just me. I would never think of using just the B-1's in a school environment unless I could stack 8 or more together but then....why not just drop in an couple 18's. Unrealistic bass is what the kids want anyway. :)
 
That is what I do for small gigs.
 
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I hates it when rick hits a home run...


Scott Mckinney and other Boseians said:
...Bass that is more "heard" than "felt"...acoustic accuracy, I still prefer the BOSE ...Unrealistic bass...
It's exactly those absurd claims of some "acoustic hokus pokus" that create, foster, and perpetuate the controversy.
 
I was just curious as to what "acoustic hokus pokus" you were referring to. BOSE uses several feedback algorithms which is basically preset notch filters for certain mikes and preset EQ settings for certain instruments but for the most part, the tri-amp 2 way system is nothing more than an electronic crossover with tops going to the uppers sticks and bass going to the subs as you would with any other bi-amped system. No real hokus pokus there.
Just wanting to understand what hokus pokus you feel is going on.
 
I was just curious as to what "acoustic hokus pokus" you were referring to. BOSE uses several feedback algorithms which is basically preset notch filters for certain mikes and preset EQ settings for certain instruments but for the most part, the tri-amp 2 way system is nothing more than an electronic crossover with tops going to the uppers sticks and bass going to the subs as you would with any other bi-amped system. No real hokus pokus there.
Just wanting to understand what hokus pokus you feel is going on.
I will simply refer you to the following statements/posts in this thread (if you need direction to other threads with similar claims, search:triwink::
Scott Harris said:
Bose is all about using electronic wizardry...

...Their DSPs are amazing and they take seemingly ordinary 4" drivers and created great sounding audio with extraordinarily wide dispersion and some sort of steering that I really don't understand.

Scott Mckinney said:
BOSE will give a Bass that is more "heard" than "felt"

P.S. I've never met a real Wizard but whenever they are portrayed practicing their Wizardry, "Hokus Pokus" is a common term of "art."
 
Rox, you are a mess LOL!