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Your Thoughts:

Which do you think is better and why

EV Live X 112P tops (active) with EV Live X 118P subs (active)

or

Bose 802 tops (passive) with Bose 302 subs (passive)
 
We shall see my friend, we shall see. I'm REALLY not a big Bose fan - so let's see 'em all come outta the woodwork now. Y'er opinion counts here too Rox.
 
way to pump some life into things IT Tigger Rox has a new found image folks are spreading their speakers etc etc etc its way overdue for some new controversy.Thursday night double shot popcorn night. Let the fun begin.
 
ittigger said:
We shall see my friend, we shall see. I'm REALLY not a big Bose fan - so let's see 'em all come outta the woodwork now. Y'er opinion counts here too Rox.
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In that case...

I'm neither a Bose Fanboy nor a Bose hater. I actually own and have been satisfied with my use of a Bose Compact.

At one time, in the distant past, I was a huge EV fan boy. I would only buy and consider EV speaks. I simply loved how they sounded in my systems. I had a dozen or so Peavey amps, mostly bi-amp systems, and the EVs worked very well with them.

Unfortunately, when the EV Eliminator series was introduced, my preferred EV gear was dis-con'd. It was priced about the same as the Eliminator line but substantially below the next series, the Q series, if I can correctly recall. The Q's were way too expensive so I blindly jumped on the Eliminator bandwagon. The Eliminators, none of the 6 that I owned ever pleased my ears, like the prior EVs, and they were definitely tougher on my spine.

So I began evaluating other speaker/amp combos. I was able to find satisfaction with JBL MR & SR series early on using my Peavey amps.

I even purchased a Bose PAS L1 Model 1 system (2 x L1s and 4 x B1). That evaluation was well dissected and additional discussion is not warranted here. Ask and I'll point you to that info.

I have since found great satisfaction with a JBL SRX/Crown XTi tri/quad amp systems.

So to summarize, I still love EV's higher end speaks, get to hear them often enough to reaffirm my opinion. I have never heard a Live X active system and likely never will because I wouldn't be looking for an active speaker...other than a few more Bose compacts or some ridiculously low priced L1 Model IIs. There are a few smaller rooms in venues that I can envision being perfect fits for a system with a very small footprint but I'm not willing, in this economy, to risk 6-7K on a fishing expedition.
 
my footprint and price line were determined after a 3 yr study to gain exactly what I was looking for and it happened to be the Gold plated upper lever Big brother of EV. DYNACORD!! Anyone else who has them knows why I chose mine. I have also used the Bose L1 for rent performing in a very small workspace in fact it was on my purchase list until I found the winning combination.
 
Jon Tuck said:
Thursday night double shot popcorn night. Let the fun begin.
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I hope you have enough popcorn to share with the rest of the class mister...! :D


BTW, in answer to the original question...

I would not put EV and Bose in the same category. The former is a regular working man's product, available at a working mans price -- the latter is a boutique product, which is available at a boutique price. One is designed for the road, the other is designed for the living room, or a fancy event at Buckingham Palace (wonder what they'll be using at hotty Kate's wedding this month).


I prefer Peavey myself, as I'm extremely hard on my gear -- just a personal preference based upon experience with said brand over a few decades of abuse. :)
 
I have been using both EV (Components) and Bose for over 32 years. Of the two, the only stand alone I own, are the Bose 802s. However, they are also used in integration with other components to form 2 way or 3 way systems. Very rare do I use the 802s as Full range.
Unless one is comparing two brands that are designed for a specific application, it would be unfair to cast judgement on one over the other. Used and designed properly, any quality speaker can serve its purpose. Then again, some are better known for certain characteristics. Level for level, Bose does not have the low end that EV has in the same class. The Bose however has great clarity in its Mids and Highs.
It all comes down to a matter of choice and the best bang for the buck. The controversy in the past has arisen from some DJs claiming unbelievable things about the Bose L1s.
 
ahoustondj said:
The controversy in the past has arisen from DJs claiming unbelievable things about the Bose L1s.
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If you spent that much for a large, black phallic symbol -- you'd probably make all sorts of claims too... yorofl:

Amazingly enough, out of all Bose products, the one I like the most is the L1 -- go figure! If I was doing a nice, elegant event, at a nice quiet country club, I would like to have a couple L1s, and 16 or so bass bins.

Not so amazing, is that I think it's priced about 5 times more than it's worth, and you have to baby them.
 
djrox said:
In that case...

I'm neither a Bose Fanboy nor a Bose hater. I actually own and have been satisfied with my use of a Bose Compact.

At one time, in the distant past, I was a huge EV fan boy. I would only buy and consider EV speaks. I simply loved how they sounded in my systems. I had a dozen or so Peavey amps, mostly bi-amp systems, and the EVs worked very well with them.

Unfortunately, when the EV Eliminator series was introduced, my preferred EV gear was dis-con'd. It was priced about the same as the Eliminator line but substantially below the next series, the Q series, if I can correctly recall. The Q's were way too expensive so I blindly jumped on the Eliminator bandwagon. The Eliminators, none of the 6 that I owned ever pleased my ears, like the prior EVs, and they were definitely tougher on my spine.

So I began evaluating other speaker/amp combos. I was able to find satisfaction with JBL MR & SR series early on using my Peavey amps.

I even purchased a Bose PAS L1 Model 1 system (2 x L1s and 4 x B1). That evaluation was well dissected and additional discussion is not warranted here. Ask and I'll point you to that info.

I have since found great satisfaction with a JBL SRX/Crown XTi tri/quad amp systems.

So to summarize, I still love EV's higher end speaks, get to hear them often enough to reaffirm my opinion. I have never heard a Live X active system and likely never will because I wouldn't be looking for an active speaker...other than a few more Bose compacts or some ridiculously low priced L1 Model IIs. There are a few smaller rooms in venues that I can envision being perfect fits for a system with a very small footprint but I'm not willing, in this economy, to risk 6-7K on a fishing expedition.
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I'll agree with you - I'm not a Bose fanboy or a Bose hater. Just lookin' for opinions. I'm also not an EV fanboy or EV hater. My fav's are Peavey and Crown.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
or a fancy event at Buckingham Palace (wonder what they'll be using at hotty Kate's wedding this month).
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I heard GEM Sound something about the Crown Jewels yorofl:
 
I know John Young uses his 802 system for High School dances and proms in our area. I have no experience with them but have heard them and they sound great for those dances.
 
For the last year I have used the Bose L1's. I really liked them, the sound and the look. I recently sold them because of two reasons: 1) I rarely do weddings bigger then 100 to 125 people and they were total overkill and 2) I needed money to fund my Photobooth business which has really taken off. I bought them used for $2500 and sold one year later for the same price. After hearing so much about the Live X 12's I purchased a pair. My immediate response was disappointment. Now I'm not saying that they are bad, but they definately sound really different. My first inpression was they sounded dull, as I was so used to the clarity of the Bose. They do have killer low end, more then I've ever heard in any speaker and I'm really impressed with that. They are also pretty loud. I played my first job with them last weekend. I was in a room that was at least 4000 square feet so I took another pair of Carvin active speakers as well. Between the two sets of speakers they sounded good and did the job fine (no sub) but I don't think the Live X could have handled the job on their own. (Many of the places I play don't like you to use subs as they have rooms above and get to many complaints). I do think, that a few weeks out, I'll find these speakers to please me just fine and actually be better suited to the jobs I play, but Bose Killers...I don;t think so.
 
niagprem said:
For the last year I have used the Bose L1's. I really liked them, the sound and the look. I recently sold them because of two reasons: 1) I rarely do weddings bigger then 100 to 125 people and they were total overkill and 2) I needed money to fund my Photobooth business which has really taken off. I bought them used for $2500 and sold one year later for the same price. After hearing so much about the Live X 12's I purchased a pair. My immediate response was disappointment. Now I'm not saying that they are bad, but they definately sound really different. My first inpression was they sounded dull, as I was so used to the clarity of the Bose. They do have killer low end, more then I've ever heard in any speaker and I'm really impressed with that. They are also pretty loud. I played my first job with them last weekend. I was in a room that was at least 4000 square feet so I took another pair of Carvin active speakers as well. Between the two sets of speakers they sounded good and did the job fine (no sub) but I don't think the Live X could have handled the job on their own. (Many of the places I play don't like you to use subs as they have rooms above and get to many complaints). I do think, that a few weeks out, I'll find these speakers to please me just fine and actually be better suited to the jobs I play, but Bose Killers...I don;t think so.
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I am surprised you got rid of the Bose systems. For 100 - 125 people average, the Bose would have been perfect.
I take it that most of those venues to which you are referring don't use bands. If they do, then it leads me to believe that because of poor architectural planning on their part (Hence complaints) they are making the DJs limit what they bring. I would pass on gigs at those sort of places.
 
niagprem said:
For the last year I have used the Bose L1's. I really liked them, the sound and the look. I recently sold them because of two reasons: 1) I rarely do weddings bigger then 100 to 125 people and they were total overkill and 2) I needed money to fund my Photobooth business which has really taken off. I bought them used for $2500 and sold one year later for the same price. After hearing so much about the Live X 12's I purchased a pair. My immediate response was disappointment. Now I'm not saying that they are bad, but they definately sound really different. My first inpression was they sounded dull, as I was so used to the clarity of the Bose. They do have killer low end, more then I've ever heard in any speaker and I'm really impressed with that. They are also pretty loud. I played my first job with them last weekend. I was in a room that was at least 4000 square feet so I took another pair of Carvin active speakers as well. Between the two sets of speakers they sounded good and did the job fine (no sub) but I don't think the Live X could have handled the job on their own. (Many of the places I play don't like you to use subs as they have rooms above and get to many complaints). I do think, that a few weeks out, I'll find these speakers to please me just fine and actually be better suited to the jobs I play, but Bose Killers...I don;t think so.
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ahoustondj said:
I am surprised you got rid of the Bose systems. For 100 - 125 people average, the Bose would have been perfect.
I take it that most of those venues to which you are referring don't use bands. If they do, then it leads me to believe that because of poor architectural planning on their part (Hence complaints) they are making the DJs limit what they bring. I would pass on gigs at those sort of places.
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Wow.... you ASS-U-Me alot..... how did you derive that the venues limit the size of ones setup from his post... I gotta know.... because you must be a mind reader or have the ability to devine information from nothing..... ROFL
 
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