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I won't comment on the quality of photography itself... as I'm no professional, however they revealed a couple of things about your services and how they can be improved with some slight tweaks.

- A suit should ONLY have the top button buttoned on a 2 button suit... and the middle one a 3 button suit... and the top on a double breasted suit. A photographer should know this as a tip to help make their grooms look best in photos. There were a few were he was posed incorrectly and had both buttoned up. Also should've told him to take the flask out of his inside pocket as it makes his suit look weird in the photo, especially in a light colored suit... a dark balck suit may have hid it possible.
- The cake cutting... a good photog/dj should remind the groom to put his jacket on for this formal moment... unless they request otherwise. In some cases, it's later in the night, they are sweating and their shirt is more wrinkled. The jacket will help them look sharp and at their best, especially because it is formal moment. PS... the angle of the photo should've been higher so you don't catch their double chins.
- During the bouquet toss, I noticed your colors were changing from the wash effects... typically formalities look best with a spotlight, or a static color... not so much just for the photos, but for the guest experience. They're trying to watch a moment but the changing lights creates a subconscious distraction.
- When the groom threw the garter, you're in the photo showing a bare arm. Do you wear a dress shirt or suit to your weddings? As a dj, especially one trying to charge a higher than avg rate... you are there to represent your couples. If they're wearing suits, the least you could do is the same. A suit also changes others initial opinion of you, and looking sharp will make them think you're successful aka great at what you do. If you look more laid back, you appear as a semi professional, and perhaps not the greatest at what you do. Everytime I step out after i change into my suit, the staff often says, I wish more dj's dressed like you and your team... they dont realize how horrible they look at a wedding in a polo or short sleeves. Again, just little subtle things that change people's perspective of your services.


Anyways, I included a link to photos my photographer took of our wedding to perhaps help inspire your wife and son to take things to the next level and stand out more in the area you're in. https://www.facebook.com/djtasonj/media_set?set=a.523685029840&type=3
 
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djtaso said:
I won't comment on the quality of photography itself... as I'm no professional, however they revealed a couple of things about your services and how they can be improved with some slight tweaks.

- A suit should ONLY have the top button buttoned on a 2 button suit... and the middle one a 3 button suit... and the top on a double breasted suit. A photographer should know this as a tip to help make their grooms look best in photos. There were a few were he was posed incorrectly and had both buttoned up. Also should've told him to take the flask out of his inside pocket as it makes his suit look weird in the photo, especially in a light colored suit... a dark balck suit may have hid it possible.
- The cake cutting... a good photog/dj should remind the groom to put his jacket on for this formal moment... unless they request otherwise. In some cases, it's later in the night, they are sweating and their shirt is more wrinkled. The jacket will help them look sharp and at their best, especially because it is formal moment. PS... the angle of the photo should've been higher so you don't catch their double chins.
- During the bouquet toss, I noticed your colors were changing from the wash effects... typically formalities look best with a spotlight, or a static color... not so much just for the photos, but for the guest experience. They're trying to watch a moment but the changing lights creates a subconscious distraction.
- When the groom threw the garter, you're in the photo showing a bare arm. Do you wear a dress shirt or suit to your weddings? As a dj, especially one trying to charge a higher than avg rate... you are there to represent your couples. If they're wearing suits, the least you could do is the same. A suit also changes others initial opinion of you, and looking sharp will make them think you're successful aka great at what you do. If you look more laid back, you appear as a semi professional, and perhaps not the greatest at what you do. Everytime I step out after i change into my suit, the staff often says, I wish more dj's dressed like you and your team... they dont realize how horrible they look at a wedding in a polo or short sleeves. Again, just little subtle things that change people's perspective of your services.


Anyways, I included a link to photos my photographer took of our wedding to perhaps help inspire your wife and son to take things to the next level and stand out more in the area you're in. https://www.facebook.com/djtasonj/media_set?set=a.523685029840&type=3
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So few people know anything about suit fashion etiquette ...its a shame....

in addition...The bottom button on a vest should also be unbuttoned.

and Rick... i do hope your not wearing a polo or HEAVEN FORBID a short sleeved dress shirt... please say it isnt so...lol

and this isnt a time where you guys can blame "regional" as an excuse... im a tubby middle aged guy in the middle of the west virginia hills but i still own 14 suits.

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As a side note...most photographers lock the general public out of their clients galleries.... i was just curious why we can see the photos...

my wife and im sure most brides are happy about this because she wanted a chance to see them and decide what she shared with her family and friends without it being a free for all...

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djcrazychris said:
As a side note...most photographers lock the general public out of their clients galleries.... i was just curious why we can see the photos...

my wife and im sure most brides are happy about this because she wanted a chance to see them and decide what she shared with her family and friends without it being a free for all...

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It's the way we choose to do it. We don't hold people's images hostage, re-charging them for our service. Everyone gets free downloads and full print/media rights. We do offer high-quality print service.

Oh, and, the officiant was kinda goofy.
 
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It's the way we choose to do it. We don't hold people's images hostage, re-charging them for our service. Everyone gets free downloads and full print/media rights. We do offer high-quality print service.
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i think you missunderstand what im saying... you lock them up ...but ofcourse the bride and groom have full access via a password... and can give that password to whomever they choose...

brides hold these photos dear...as im sure you understand... and maybe they want to have a chance to look through them privately....without their ex boyfriend...mother in law... some perv....500 djs on a forum...or anyone else from having a browse...

just a tip from someone whos married to someone who didnt want her wedding photos on display for the world.

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i think you missunderstand what im saying... you lock them up ...but ofcourse the bride and groom have full access via a password... and can give that password to whomever they choose...

brides hold these photos dear...as im sure you understand... and maybe they want to have a chance to look through them privately....without their ex boyfriend...mother in law... some perv....500 djs on a forum...or anyone else from having a browse...

just a tip from someone whos married to someone who didnt want her wedding photos on display for the world.

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The only galleries we actual lock are bridals and anything that might be considered intimate. Generally, we deliver a sneak peek (20-50 photos), the week after. Carolyn sends them the pictures, waits a day or so, then asks if the bride wants us to create a facebook gallery for them. The vast majority (90%) want this and they want to see themselves on social media. Now this particular gallery is new and it hasn't been shared on social media, yet. The ones who want more privacy we respect. I do make it clear in our contract that we retain the right to use any and all shots for promotional purposes. If they want differently then there is a buy-out fee. Nobody has taken me up on that one yet.
 
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The cake cutting... a good photog/dj should remind the groom to put his jacket on for this formal moment..
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I won't go thru everything but just let me say this groom was completely sh!t-faced the entire night. Every single event he was nowhere to be found and after we did find him, and drag him back into the room, we were having to prop him up, just to be upright. My wife did notice the flask (after the fact) but under the circumstances I'd say she did a great job of just getting ANY kind of photos.
 
Chris is right about locking passwords. My wife was VERY specific about what photos people would get to see, and would not give anyone the online gallery password. It’s just one extra step, but it gives couples... especially the bride... peace of mind that only the photos that she wants out get out
 
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djtaso said:
I won't comment on the quality of photography itself... as I'm no professional, however they revealed a couple of things about your services and how they can be improved with some slight tweaks.

- A suit should ONLY have the top button buttoned on a 2 button suit... and the middle one a 3 button suit... and the top on a double breasted suit. A photographer should know this as a tip to help make their grooms look best in photos. There were a few were he was posed incorrectly and had both buttoned up. Also should've told him to take the flask out of his inside pocket as it makes his suit look weird in the photo, especially in a light colored suit... a dark balck suit may have hid it possible.
- The cake cutting... a good photog/dj should remind the groom to put his jacket on for this formal moment... unless they request otherwise. In some cases, it's later in the night, they are sweating and their shirt is more wrinkled. The jacket will help them look sharp and at their best, especially because it is formal moment. PS... the angle of the photo should've been higher so you don't catch their double chins.
- During the bouquet toss, I noticed your colors were changing from the wash effects... typically formalities look best with a spotlight, or a static color... not so much just for the photos, but for the guest experience. They're trying to watch a moment but the changing lights creates a subconscious distraction.
- When the groom threw the garter, you're in the photo showing a bare arm. Do you wear a dress shirt or suit to your weddings? As a dj, especially one trying to charge a higher than avg rate... you are there to represent your couples. If they're wearing suits, the least you could do is the same. A suit also changes others initial opinion of you, and looking sharp will make them think you're successful aka great at what you do. If you look more laid back, you appear as a semi professional, and perhaps not the greatest at what you do. Everytime I step out after i change into my suit, the staff often says, I wish more dj's dressed like you and your team... they dont realize how horrible they look at a wedding in a polo or short sleeves. Again, just little subtle things that change people's perspective of your services.


Anyways, I included a link to photos my photographer took of our wedding to perhaps help inspire your wife and son to take things to the next level and stand out more in the area you're in. https://www.facebook.com/djtasonj/media_set?set=a.523685029840&type=3
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Taso .. just a note on many of your photos .. flesh tones were off (some considerably) and very inconsistent. Maybe the photographer tried to use natural lighting, but unfortunately, that changes from shot to shot and is heavily influenced by room colors and window treatments. The framing and compositions were great.
 
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Taso .. just a note on many of your photos .. flesh tones were off (some considerably) and very inconsistent. Maybe the photographer tried to use natural lighting, but unfortunately, that changes from shot to shot and is heavily influenced by room colors and window treatments. The framing and compositions were great.
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I totally get what you’re saying, and this is why researching photogs is important. Some circumstances were strictly natural lighting like the bedroom shots (to create the shadows and such) and church shots as per the church’s rules typically. Also many of these shots are taken over the span of 6 hours so the natural lighting changes a lot (no first looks here, and got ready at separate houses with different shooters). But more importantly, and one of the reasons we chose him, it has a bit to do with the editing, as It is his style to make the photos a bit less natural looking. My wife was very particular about making sure we didn’t hire someone who shot very natural, bright, and airy or pastel like, as is the trend now it seems, and wanted someone that would make her look more “tan” as they say, and use more shadowing or darker tones in some instances, which again tends to use natural lighting. The heaviest amounts of flash were only used at the reception, and only in some instances, as the spotlighting from the moving heads was used for certain shots as well.
 
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...but just let me say this groom was completely sh*t-faced the entire night. Every single event he was nowhere to be found and after we did find him, and drag him back into the room, we were having to prop him up, just to be upright.
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Wow....that is so sad and selfish. Missed the entire celebration.
 
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I've been quiet on this thread and others because we had 5 weddings going this past weekend.

I did 2 personally Friday and Saturday. Had two associates working on Saturday as well, and one of those associates also did a Sunday gig for me.

Broke 5 figures in billing for the first time in one weekend.

One more busy week, and then I get a little break...
 
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Chris is right about locking passwords. My wife was VERY specific about what photos people would get to see, and would not give anyone the online gallery password. It’s just one extra step, but it gives couples... especially the bride... peace of mind that only the photos that she wants out get out
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apparently there is a faction of brides out there that want Ricks wife to blast them to social media for them... i guess even the ones that make them look fat...or their husband look drunk... i stand corrected...

Cue Taso: "its all about the level of clientele you are attracting"

lolol

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apparently there is a faction of brides out there that want Ricks wife to blast them to social media for them... i guess even the ones that make them look fat...or their husband look drunk... i stand corrected...

Cue Taso: "its all about the level of clientele you are attracting"

lolol

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lol i dont think that has anything to do with the level of clientele... i just think it's just how many of today's brides are... they worked so hard to make their wedding day perfect, and spent lots of money on how they look and everything, and they just want the best portrayed to the public. It's one thing to post a small handful to the public with the best of the best, and nothing too up close... but another thing to have a public album of ALL the photos... especially with cameras that are so detailed that every imperfection is on display.
 
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lol i dont think that has anything to do with the level of clientele... i just think it's just how many of today's brides are... they worked so hard to make their wedding day perfect, and spent lots of money on how they look and everything, and they just want the best portrayed to the public. It's one thing to post a small handful to the public with the best of the best, and nothing too up close... but another thing to have a public album of ALL the photos... especially with cameras that are so detailed that every imperfection is on display.
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my wife fine tooth combed ours for days... and only let her mom and sisters have the passwords...lol... i grabbed a few and posted them on my personal account and got in trouble...lolol

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lol i dont think that has anything to do with the level of clientele... i just think it's just how many of today's brides are... they worked so hard to make their wedding day perfect, and spent lots of money on how they look and everything, and they just want the best portrayed to the public. It's one thing to post a small handful to the public with the best of the best, and nothing too up close... but another thing to have a public album of ALL the photos... especially with cameras that are so detailed that every imperfection is on display.
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That's exactly it. While I admit, we have our share of lower-class clients, we also have lots of middle-class and upper-class individuals as well. Very few of them want their material locked down and most take it as a compliment when some of their pics get featured on our social media postings. Keep in mind also that we don't do like most photographers who deliver most of their shots taken. We cull hard and usually only deliver 10%-20% of the shots taken. From everything I've seen from our past clients, we must be choosing correctly as it's very rare to ever get a bride complaining about the shots chosen. We will, on occasion, get one asking about some specific shot(s) that didn't make the cut. In those cases, my wife will usually fudge a bit on her standards and edit/deliver a few additional.
 
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my wife fine tooth combed ours for days... and only let her mom and sisters have the passwords...lol... i grabbed a few and posted them on my personal account and got in trouble...lolol

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same exact story. No one has the password except her. I had to download them all onto a flash drive and that's what she showed her fam. so they didn't have access to the site lol.. I got in trouble for posting them on fb before her as well... even though she handpicked every photo to put on there before I put em up lol.
 
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