Cold Spark unit refusal

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I'm doing a wedding next Saturday at another venue (not mine). I'm doing this one for free (my cousin's widower) and was going to include the cold sparks for first dance. I just got a note from the groom saying the venue would not allow it. They said they got in trouble last time they allowed it. Now it doesn't bother me in the least to not supply them, but it kinda surprised me that a venue would disallow it. Are any of you sparks-using DJs still seeing resistance? I assume you have to just eat a refund on the loss of the add-on?
 
This is VERY regional based... the more outside of the NJ/NYC/Philly area I go, the less experienced venues are with these, and more likely to reject them. There are some places where fire marshals consider these pyrotechnics and have sent out warnings to facilities. Until brides in that area reject venues because they disallow sparklers, they'll continue to keep that policy. I've seen it here firsthand, where venues held off on allowing them, but since virtually every other venue in the area allowed them, they had no choice but to do so. Of course, it doesn't help when brides present this option to their venue as "sparklers" and don't explain the technology. In some cases where I contacted the venue and explained to them with photos and videos how it looks and works, they approve it. I also dealt with this a lot for CO2 blasts before they became more popular.

As for how I handle it... it's in my contract that it is the clients responsibility to verify the approval of any enhancements. If it is not cancelled within 30 days of the event, they're responsible for 50% of the cost, and if it is deemed not allowed after I show up, the client is responsible for the full amount. If it's a venue I haven't been to, I mention it at the time of booking if they know if their venue is ok with it.
 
This is VERY regional based... the more outside of the NJ/NYC/Philly area I go, the less experienced venues are with these, and more likely to reject them. There are some places where fire marshals consider these pyrotechnics and have sent out warnings to facilities. Until brides in that area reject venues because they disallow sparklers, they'll continue to keep that policy. I've seen it here firsthand, where venues held off on allowing them, but since virtually every other venue in the area allowed them, they had no choice but to do so. Of course, it doesn't help when brides present this option to their venue as "sparklers" and don't explain the technology. In some cases where I contacted the venue and explained to them with photos and videos how it looks and works, they approve it. I also dealt with this a lot for CO2 blasts before they became more popular.

As for how I handle it... it's in my contract that it is the clients responsibility to verify the approval of any enhancements. If it is not cancelled within 30 days of the event, they're responsible for 50% of the cost, and if it is deemed not allowed after I show up, the client is responsible for the full amount. If it's a venue I haven't been to, I mention it at the time of booking if they know if their venue is ok with it.

How far in advance do you collect your final balance? With venue, I'm at 30 days but for mobile DJ it was 2 weeks.
 
I see it as not just if the venue will allow it but also does the person setting it up and using it know what they are doing?