Cold Spark incident and the Bride and Groom keep dancing

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Jeff Romard

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It's only a matter of time they will be banning these. I imagine these are the cheap ones but the optics will be bad


 
this is the phillipines, so I have no clue what kind of quality control is on those. Secondly, they had those flammable feathers too close to the top of the spark machine, where the material may still inadvertently be coming out hot. In the training we have to take for the more legit ones they say the area should be clear a few ft all around from any flammable items.

I blame this on cheap machines and poor installation/setup. But yes... honestly speaking, it's easier than people think to screw this effect up.
 
this is the phillipines, so I have no clue what kind of quality control is on those. Secondly, they had those flammable feathers too close to the top of the spark machine, where the material may still inadvertently be coming out hot. In the training we have to take for the more legit ones they say the area should be clear a few ft all around from any flammable items.

I blame this on cheap machines and poor installation/setup. But yes... honestly speaking, it's easier than people think to screw this effect up.

Looks like they set the spark machine right beneath the dried, feathered planter. In that case, it makes perfect sense that it caught fire.
 
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I would argue that a fire extinguisher that can be bought from Amazon or Home Depot for $50 or less would have put that fire out quite easily.
Depends what’s on fire. If it’s the spark material that is under a different classification of flammable items and requires a class d extinguisher to put out. The feathers would likely be put out with a regular extinguisher.
 
Not knowing how to properly use anything can cause a disaster. If you don't know what you're doing or not buying the right thing, then don't do it!
 
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Scary video for sure.

The particles definitely come out of the machine warm. This was a really dumb set up to have those feathers sitting there.

Taso is right, if the titanium itself is what is on fire a normal fire extinguisher will not put it out. If you're only concern is putting out whatever has been set on fire... then a normal 5 in 1 type extinguisher should handle most common issues. And I definitely keep an extinguisher in the case for mine and set up if there is an emergency.
 
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You don't know, what you don't know...


GJ
It's about finding out how to properly get things to work. If you don't know how to get things done right, I would suggest either finding someone to show you how it's done or get them to do it for you.
 
I don’t know if anybody remember seeing this one from a year ago but it can get way worse. Hopefully someone has some really good insurance.

It the current video that flower display is clearly too close to the sparks. We don’t know who setup and triggered the sparks but I wouldn’t want to be that person because the flower display didn’t just jump that close to the unit.

View: https://youtu.be/wO4Ue3yASzE
 
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I don’t know if anybody remember seeing this one from a year ago but it can get way worse. Hopefully someone has some really good insurance.

It the current video that flower display is clearly too close to the sparks. We don’t know who setup and triggered the sparks but I wouldn’t want to be that person because the flower display didn’t just jump that close to the unit.

View: https://youtu.be/wO4Ue3yASzE
The thing with that situation is those are REAL sparks, not cold spark machines. That was just stupid as those are actually hot and will easily put things on fire that are easily flammable.
 
I don’t know if anybody remember seeing this one from a year ago but it can get way worse. Hopefully someone has some really good insurance.

It the current video that flower display is clearly too close to the sparks. We don’t know who setup and triggered the sparks but I wouldn’t want to be that person because the flower display didn’t just jump that close to the unit.

View: https://youtu.be/wO4Ue3yASzE
That certainly was really wild. Why was this person tossing a beverage around like that? I guess it was an alcoholic beverage and that set things on fire. My question is who would be responsible for causing the fire and what did happen?
 
... I have no clue what kind of quality control is on those. Secondly, they had those flammable feathers too close... the training we have to take ....more legit ... clear all around from any flammable items.

I blame this on cheap machines and poor installation/setup. But yes... honestly speaking, it's easier than people think to screw this effect up.

How about a simple simple: - don't do it.
It should be licensed as a pyrotechnic (..and it ultimately will be.) We shouldn't have to wait for another night club mass casualty incident. DJs, bands, and entertainers should not be using lame excuses about who/what is or isnlt "legit" to qualify high risk behavior.

Those feathers flashed and became fully engulfed very quickly. Had there been more of them, or something larger like a Christmas tree - no one would have been able to get close enough to extinguish it. We are only seeing a handful of incidents that happen to get attention. Be certain there are many more we'll never hear about, and some which have not yet even been conceived, (Imagine for example, someone wearing a flammable costume or clothing!)

This lands squarely on the wedding DJs and bands because no person grows up thinking: "I can't wait to have fireworks at my wedding." These hazards are always the result of aggressive sales and exploitation of social fear. Don't let your DJ business be just another squirrel fighting for a nut. Make sound choices about what NOT to sell.
 
We don’t know who setup and triggered the sparks but I wouldn’t want to be that person because the flower display didn’t just jump that close to the unit.
The flowers may indeed have "jumped that close."

There are many people working in an event space, all of whom have some aesthetic input to the setup. It is so easy for one vendor to move something, only to have the original vendor move it back to where it was intended, followed by aguest who then moves it out of their way, and subsequent waitstaff that gives it a new position.

None of this matters of course, because ultimately it will be the person who brought the pyro device into the building that will be found responsible.
 
How about a simple simple: - don't do it.
It should be licensed as a pyrotechnic (..and it ultimately will be.) We shouldn't have to wait for another night club mass casualty incident. DJs, bands, and entertainers should not be using lame excuses about who/what is or isnlt "legit" to qualify high risk behavior.

Those feathers flashed and became fully engulfed very quickly. Had there been more of them, or something larger like a Christmas tree - no one would have been able to get close enough to extinguish it. We are only seeing a handful of incidents that happen to get attention. Be certain there are many more we'll never hear about, and some which have not yet even been conceived, (Imagine for example, someone wearing a flammable costume or clothing!)

This lands squarely on the wedding DJs and bands because no person grows up thinking: "I can't wait to have fireworks at my wedding." These hazards are always the result of aggressive sales and exploitation of social fear. Don't let your DJ business be just another squirrel fighting for a nut. Make sound choices about what NOT to sell.
Of course couples grow up wishing to have this.., they see it all over their social media. That’s why when these spark machines came out they became instant hits. And keep in mind, before we were doing it here, foreign countries have been doing it forever with real sparklers. In Greece every wedding has tens of these… maybe close to 100 of these going off for entrances, first dances, cake cuttings etc. Just normal every day people setting these off. So yes we will always be dealing with couples wanting the newest coolest thing… even if it’s not safe… because if they can do it in Europe why can’t we do it here is the mentality.
 
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