BAD WEDDING DJ?

steve149

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"Maybe there was an email..." is just a bald face fabrication on your part, and the you take the even more egregious step of suggesting that the customer AND the consumer reporter are both liars. Sorry Steve, but this is seriously lacking in integrity.

It makes no difference at all if the DJ was subcontracted. Which BTW speaks to the integrity of the reporter, who throughout the story refers to "the company" with respect to all the promises that were made. As far as the DJ, he accepted the role of representing "the company" and is fully complicit in the outcome.
I'm not suggesting anyone lied. I'm offering there might be selective truth .. I don't know .. as YOU don't know. And regardless of representation, it's tough to be complicit if you don't get the material.

Lack of integrity also applies to those who proclaim guilt without proper proof. It's easy to try someone in the court of opinion.
 
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DJ Bobcat

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I'm not suggesting anyone lied. I'm offering there might be selective truth .. I don't know .. as YOU don't know. And regardless of representation, it's tough to be complicit if you don't get the material.

Lack of integrity also applies to those who proclaim guilt without proper proof. It's easy to try someone in the court of opinion.
Not that it would sway anybody, but this thread reminds me of a recent “NEWS” story, based on a video someone posted...



^^^^ Recognize this??? Several major so called news organizations (including CNN) reported that this 16 year old Catholic boy (wearing a MAGA hat and protesting against abortion) harassed and called obscenities toward a Native American Indian/Vietnam veteran. All this was done without getting an account from the child. As a result, the boy’s school condemned the actions of it’s students and promised punishments and a thorough investigation.

I can see Proformance jumping in and bullying this kid along with all the other anonymous social media bullies. The boy received death threats along with other members of his family. The social media attacks were vile and disgusting.

So after all the investigations, guess what???... The REAL events had very little in common with the news reports. The Catholic kid (and the other students) never uttered a single insult or a single obscenity. The so called adult Native American was the one who walked up to the kid and got in his face and beat on his drum just inches from the boy’s face. The Native American was NOT a Vietnam veteran either. This was verified by other videos and witnesses. 41 days later, the Washington Post did print a letter from its editor half-heartedly back-pedaling on the story, but it was NOT really a retraction. And CNN... well, they’ve wiped their initial videos of the story from their web site (otherwise I would have posted it) and YouTube, and they also reported a more accurate version of what happened, but have never taken any responsibility for their role in the initial false reports (FAKE NEWS), their complicity in the social media mob attacks on that child, nor have they offered any apology to the children involved. The school has apologized to the kids for it’s initial condemnation, and of course there were no suspensions or punishment.

Why would a news agency deliberately publish false news reports???... Well, let’s start with ratings... money... sensationalism. Then there’s white kids wearing MAGA hats... they must be taught a lesson. And they were having a PRO LIFE rally on the Lincoln Memorial, and we all know the most important issue for the left (which is represented by the lamestream media)... Abortion.

If they would have had their way, the TRUTH would never have been known. The other side turned out be the TRUTH, which is why all but the voluntarily brain-washed want both sides before condemning someone.
 
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ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
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Western Maryland
She told us on camera that her expectations were not met.
The DJ refunded her money.
Your "missing" information claim is not useful, or insightful.

"Fairness" as you are preoccupied with it here, has no place in business.
A customer can be difficult but, they are never wrong. The moment you believe they are - is the moment you're in the wrong business.

There are at least 5 people in this thread who are admittedly committed to the idea that: "the customer is NOT always right."
It's a lame excuse for lame DJs.
All I can say is WOW. Too many people on this board who simply don't walk the talk.
Exactly - SHE told the camera. One side. The DJ refunded part of the money. Over $600, there are several others that may have given $200 back just for the news crew to go away too. I'll also add that you have no idea what the news crew said - maybe they threatened to smear the DJ. The missing information claim is useful, insightful and very much needed in order to make a proper assessment. If you get into a car accident, does your insurance company automatically claim you are guilty and side with the other party - or do they investigate both sides first? If your child tells you that he/she did their school homework and the school calls you to tell you that your child has not been doing their homework, do you automatically fight the school saying it's been done, regardless of hearing their side?

You brought 'fairness' into this discussion, not me. Why did you do that if it has no place in business? Maybe it is you that is preoccupied with it. A customer can be difficult and wrong. Every business deals with this. If they were never wrong, you wouldn't need a contract. Your contract is to protect you and the customer - if they're never wrong, what do you need protection from? What do they need protection from? If they're never wrong, then anything written in your contract is invalid. Your statement of such (and operation of the opposite) shows how out of touch you are.

Defending an unknown Bride in an unknown situation with unknown issues is a lame attempt and excuse for lame DJ's. As usual, you have not shown even the smallest amount of evidence or proof of otherwise and you've been asked to provide it several times. While you may 'walk the talk', the rest of us 'walk the walk' and 'talk the talk'.

Again, being that you have so much inside information, why did you hire this person and why did you put him in the position that he was in?

As bad as this wedding claims to have been, why is there no information available other than a news report? Again, how is it that you know so much? This could only be that you are involved with it - which makes you just as complicit as he is and maybe moreso.

A projected decline of 4,500 DJs in the U.S. market will occur over the next 10 years. The number or working DJs has been declining at the rate of -9% annually for quite some time.

It's likely that all 99 people saying the same thing - will be part of that statistic.
It's just as likely that the 1 will be part of that statistic.
 
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ittigger

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Not that it would sway anybody, but this thread reminds me of a recent “NEWS” story, based on a video someone posted...



^^^^ Recognize this??? Several major so called news organizations (including CNN) reported that this 16 year old Catholic boy (wearing a MAGA hat and protesting against abortion) harassed and called obscenities toward a Native American Indian/Vietnam veteran. All this was done without getting an account from the child. As a result, the boy’s school condemned the actions of it’s students and promised punishments and a thorough investigation.

I can see Proformance jumping in and bullying this kid along with all the other anonymous social media bullies. The boy received death threats along with other members of his family. The social media attacks were vile and disgusting.

So after all the investigations, guess what???... The REAL events had very little in common with the news reports. The Catholic kid (and the other students) never uttered a single insult or a single obscenity. The so called adult Native American was the one who walked up to the kid and got in his face and beat on his drum just inches from the boy’s face. The Native American was NOT a Vietnam veteran either. This was verified by other videos and witnesses. 41 days later, the Washington Post did print a letter from its editor half-heartedly back-pedaling on the story, but it was NOT really a retraction. And CNN... well, they’ve wiped their initial videos of the story from their web site (otherwise I would have posted it) and YouTube, and they also reported a more accurate version of what happened, but have never taken any responsibility for their role in the initial false reports (FAKE NEWS), their complicity in the social media mob attacks on that child, nor have they offered any apology to the children involved. The school has apologized to the kids for it’s initial condemnation, and of course there were no suspensions or punishment.

Why would a news agency deliberately publish false news reports???... Well, let’s start with ratings... money... sensationalism. Then there’s white kids wearing MAGA hats... they must be taught a lesson. And they were having a PRO LIFE rally on the Lincoln Memorial, and we all know the most important issue for the left (which is represented by the lamestream media)... Abortion.

If they would have had their way, the TRUTH would never have been known. The other side turned out be the TRUTH, which is why all but the voluntarily brain-washed want both sides before condemning someone.
Wait - the news did not portray this event properly? WHAT? ;)
 
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DJ Bobcat

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Wait - the news did not portray this event properly? WHAT? ;)
There are plenty of other stories recently... think about the racial, homophobic attack on actor Jussie Smollett. The FAKE racial, homophobic attack on actor Jussie Smollett. We only got what HE said happened, only he forgot to mention he orchestrated and paid for the fake attack himself. And no “journalist” questioned him on it because it fit with their political views and their efforts to divide and deceive the American public. The media is NOT your friend, and is NOT there to protect you. They are there to exploit you for their own political and sociological objectives.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM

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Let's keep it simple. Non of us were there. So we don't know exactly what happened. So we should take it easy on each other. What we say here about this is just our own opinion. We all have a right to our own opinion. Obviously nobody is supposed to agree with everything that someone says on here. That would be crazy!
 

Proformance

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Nov 6, 2006
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This story is about a bride who didn't get what she paid for. There's no DJ or DJ company being called out here - it's a warning to ALL brides about ALL disc jockeys with a website and online booking tools. Given the character of respondents on this board - it's a warning long overdue. If anyone wants to know what DJ the story is about - look in the mirror.

And regardless of representation, it's tough to be complicit if you don't get the material.

IT'S THE DJ'S JOB TO GET THAT MATERIAL. WTF?
The bride spoke to the DJ on the phone Prior to booking. Thread after thread on this site is DJs talking about their website and getting bookings ONLINE. What exactly do you believe excuses a DJ of any responsibility to follow up on the details the customer is directed to submit online?

Lack of integrity also applies to those who proclaim guilt without proper proof. It's easy to try someone in the court of opinion.
But that didn't happen - so, yet another lie. The reporter was kind of enough not to identify the lacky DJ, and make his story a warning to bride's about the dangers of online bookings and dubious DJs. So, where's this mysterious courtroom of yours? Where's your defendant?
 

Proformance

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Nov 6, 2006
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Defending an unknown Bride in an unknown situation with unknown issues...
The bride is identified by name and hometown,
the situation is carefully described,
the issues clearly presented, defined, and summarized.

You're not open minded your just not being very bright or insightful.

"Stupid is as stupid does." - Forest Gump
 

steve149

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Sep 26, 2011
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IT'S THE DJ'S JOB TO GET THAT MATERIAL. WTF? The bride spoke to the DJ on the phone Prior to booking. Thread after thread on this site is DJs talking about their website and getting bookings ONLINE. What exactly do you believe excuses a DJ of any responsibility to follow up on the details the customer is directed to submit online?
Yes .. that is correct. But since we only have one side we have to either assume .. or say we need the other side too. I vote B.

But that didn't happen - so, yet another lie. The reporter was kind of enough not to identify the lacky DJ, and make his story a warning to bride's about the dangers of online bookings and dubious DJs. So, where's this mysterious courtroom of yours? Where's your defendant?
Again, we don't know if the reporter "was kind" or that was the agreement to get $200 back and make the reporter look good.

I agree that a bride should have picked a more reputable DJ.
 

ittigger

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Feb 1, 2011
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The bride is identified by name and hometown,
the situation is carefully described,
the issues clearly presented, defined, and summarized.

You're not open minded your just not being very bright or insightful.

"Stupid is as stupid does." - Forest Gump
Says the 1%. I'm pretty certain this makes you the stupid one - and his name is Forrest. You don't know any more than anyone else here. If you do, please present it - put up or shut up. Go back and read the thread and you'll discover that 99% of the people involved in this discussion don't have a problem being open minded, bright and insightful. The 1% seem to have issues with this.

In case you doubt this, here's some assistance:
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Open minded
o·pen-mind·ed
adjective
willing to consider new ideas; unprejudiced.
"a serious and open-minded newspaper"
synonyms: unbiased, unprejudiced, prejudice-free, accepting, nonpartisan, neutral, nonaligned, nonjudgmental, nondiscriminatory, anti-discrimination, objective, disinterested, dispassionate, detached;
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What's that? You don't like that definition? How about these?

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open-minded
adjective
willing to listen to other people and consider new ideas, suggestions, and opinions
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open mind
A mind receptive to different opinions and ideas - as in Her open mind could see merit in the new method.
This phrase is often put as keep an open mind - as in The judge cautioned the jury to keep an open mind while hearing the evidence
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NONE of that describes what you've decided to make a stand on (or pretty much any discussion you've been involved in). In fact, it is the exact opposite of where you typically stand. An open mind is one that is accepting to the fact that you may not have all the details and without them, you cannot make an unbiased decision. Please take special note of the last line of part 3. Where is your evidence?
 
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rickryan.com

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Yes .. that is correct. But since we only have one side we have to either assume .. or say we need the other side too. I vote B.



Again, we don't know if the reporter "was kind" or that was the agreement to get $200 back and make the reporter look good.

I agree that a bride should have picked a more reputable DJ.
Back when I was sub-contracting, and at a much lower price point (PITA cheap brides), I had to deal with several complaining brides. Some of them had legitimate complaints. We screwed up sometimes. However, what I found in 100% of the cases was that the bride ALWAYS wildly exaggerated her claims that my company had "ruined her life". This bride sounds exactly like them and the report is most definitely doing a hack job, giving him zero credibility. While it's possible the DJ did screw up, I refuse to take a swing at him based on the evidence I've seen/heard.
 

Proformance

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Nov 6, 2006
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We screwed up sometimes. However, what I found in 100% of the cases was that the bride ALWAYS wildly exaggerated her claims
You screw up but, it's not a big deal to you - so, whatever the bride feels is exaggerated?
Thank God there's reporters out there willing to expose the sh**ty class of wedding DJs still operating today.
 

rickryan.com

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You screw up but, it's not a big deal to you - so, whatever the bride feels is exaggerated?
Thank God there's reporters out there willing to expose the sh**ty class of wedding DJs still operating today.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. What I said is, in every single complaint, it was always wildly exaggerated to the point that about half the story was complete fabrication. In several cases it was a ruse to try and shakedown a vendor in order to write themselves a discount for an event they couldn't really afford.
 

Proformance

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Nov 6, 2006
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.. in every single complaint, it was always wildly exaggerated to the point that about half the story was complete fabrication. In several cases it was a ruse to try and shakedown a vendor in order to write themselves a discount for an event they couldn't really afford.
Your speaking in absolutes which are always false. That's the crux of the problem. Like so many you are predisposed to deflect blame back onto to the customer even when it is the business that is clearly at fault.

You have no way of knowing who can afford to pay what amount - which is what makes the ego at play so transparent. The notion that the DJ has a vindicating side to this story that's being denied is conspiracy theory at it's finest. Conspiracy theory is for the most part - the ego.