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Thought I'd share this in case anyone else is considering the same thing. I've been using a lightning plug to put tablet/cell sound into my system. Yesterday, I received this BT receiver from Amazon. Haven't tested the range yet but one thing I like is being able to pickup my phone and not have the hardwire connection glitch out (usually triggering Siri in the process). If the range is correct, I should be able to walk the entire room, making it easy to get out from behind the console on cake, bouquet, etc.

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I don't doubt that this device can transmit via bluetooth at a greater distance than a phone can, but if you're transmitting TO it, I think you're going to be disappointed. Your tablet probably only transmits about 33 feet; that's the max you'll get from an iPad and the most I'm able to get from my iPhone X to a bluetooth speaker.
 

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I don't doubt that this device can transmit via bluetooth at a greater distance than a phone can, but if you're transmitting TO it, I think you're going to be disappointed. Your tablet probably only transmits about 33 feet; that's the max you'll get from an iPad and the most I'm able to get from my iPhone X to a bluetooth speaker.
I've also found that once you get further than about 15', the likelihood of interference and signal drop increases exponentially with each foot ...
 

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I have a different model from the same manufacturer. I got it because I wanted support for aptX-HD. BT has 3 transmit powers; 1 meter, up to 10 meters, up to 100 meters. The 1 meter power level is used for things like keyboards and mice. The 10 meter power level is used for most devices (phones, headphones, etc). The 100 meter setting is relatively uncommon. This device in transmit mode TO your phone at great range but it can't receive FROM from your phone at great range. Mind you, walls attenuate 2.4 GHz signals pretty significantly so you will never see the max advertised range in normal circumstances.
 
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Bluetooth is just not a reliable option for venues claiming professional results for events.

Bluetooth and backyard bar-b-ques...other than that, you are kidding yourself.
Then why are many of the powered speakers starting to include BT as standard? At the very least, it makes running sound at the DJ stand from my iphone easy. The lightning connector is prone to pops. When the phone gets moved while plugged in it also often fires off Siri.
 

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Then why are many of the powered speakers starting to include BT as standard? At the very least, it makes running sound at the DJ stand from my iphone easy. The lightning connector is prone to pops. When the phone gets moved while plugged in it also often fires off Siri.
Probably should have other options than running sound from a phone.
 

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Then why are many of the powered speakers starting to include BT as standard? At the very least, it makes running sound at the DJ stand from my iphone easy. The lightning connector is prone to pops. When the phone gets moved while plugged in it also often fires off Siri.
They're doing it for convenience - not reliability. BT is not an expensive addition.
 

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I use Bluetooth all the time .. and I would NEVER use it for a paid event unless I was supplying gear to be used and BT was an input requirement BT is just too susceptible to issues including line of sight dropouts (people walking by) and interference from other 2.4GHz sources.
 

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I’ve had Bluetooth for years. It‘s built into my Denon Mixer, and I added it to my small system using one of these...F8E138D8-605D-4AE1-809C-00428A8C1696.jpeg
... Both work great. I rarely use this capability at a gig, but on the few occasions I have, it worked PERFECTLY! I have not experienced ANY blips or dropouts, and I’d have difficulty knowing if the music is played through Bluetooth. I don’t allow ANYONE to physically hook devices to my systems, but I have allowed clients to play stuff from their phones through my Bluetooth connections. It has been VERY well appreciated by the clients/guests. I don’t know how far the signal reaches, because I’ve never had a source more than 10 feet away. Testing it in my home office, it easily goes 30 feet, and that’s through a couple of walls.
 
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I use Bluetooth all the time .. and I would NEVER use it for a paid event unless I was supplying gear to be used and BT was an input requirement BT is just too susceptible to issues including line of sight dropouts (people walking by) and interference from other 2.4GHz sources.
I don't really intend to use it for events, but there are times when I want to run spotify (while working) and in the venue there's no internet unless I setup my phone as a hotspot. I guess I could see it being used for dinner music or cocktail hour. My jewish DJ buddy used to do spotify during dinner for his mitzvahs.
 

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I don't really intend to use it for events, but there are times when I want to run spotify (while working) and in the venue there's no internet unless I setup my phone as a hotspot. I guess I could see it being used for dinner music or cocktail hour. My jewish DJ buddy used to do spotify during dinner for his mitzvahs.
For your non-event use, then a simple receiver like you posted or Bobcat posted would be fine. I still would not use it for any paid event, even for simple playlist activity .. I've seen it drop out in places with a lot of phones nearby. If I had to use Spotify at an event (and I have), it would be through a laptop or non-calling device (iPad usually) connected hardwired to my mixer. I would only go direct to the speaker for informal, personal backyard events.
 

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I don't really intend to use it for events, but there are times when I want to run spotify (while working) and in the venue there's no internet unless I setup my phone as a hotspot. I guess I could see it being used for dinner music or cocktail hour. My jewish DJ buddy used to do spotify during dinner for his mitzvahs.
That's not what you original post stated.

I've been using a lightning plug to put tablet/cell sound into my system. Yesterday, I received this BT receiver from Amazon. Haven't tested the range yet but one thing I like is being able to pickup my phone and not have the hardwire connection glitch out (usually triggering Siri in the process). If the range is correct, I should be able to walk the entire room, making it easy to get out from behind the console on cake, bouquet, etc.
 
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Then why are many of the powered speakers starting to include BT as standard?
Because they need to make the product attractive to every type of user - i.e. the cheer coach who just wants to play music from their phone as well as the DJ or musician who has something to plug into the speaker.

Also, many of the "professional" speakers advertised as having Bluetooth capability only give the user the ability to control the EQ and other DSP settings via Bluetooth; streaming audio to them via Bluetooth is not an option (for example, the JBL Eon 6-series).
 

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Because they need to make the product attractive to every type of user - i.e. the cheer coach who just wants to play music from their phone as well as the DJ or musician who has something to plug into the speaker.

Also, many of the "professional" speakers advertised as having Bluetooth capability only give the user the ability to control the EQ and other DSP settings via Bluetooth; streaming audio to them via Bluetooth is not an option (for example, the JBL Eon 6-series).
You can stream to the JBL Eon Compact via BT directly .. in stereo if you use the app to set it up. One of the reasons I bought a pair.
 

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You can stream to the JBL Eon Compact via BT directly .. in stereo if you use the app to set it up. One of the reasons I bought a pair.
Same with the Bose S1 Pro. You're still limited by distance though.

I was surprised about the lack of Bluetooth audio capability with my EON610s though... for all of the things you CAN do via the JBL Connect app, you'd think they'd be able to include streaming audio with it.
 
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I've used the BT on the s1pro a few times at events without any issues. Cocktail hours/ retail events.

I've always kept the iPad close by.

I dont feel confident enough yet to use it during dance portion or ceremony