That dang "pitch shift" thing...

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Please tell me I am not the only person alive who ABHORS the soul/r&b turned hip-hop turned pop and rock trend over the last few years that sees every vocal track being contorted by pitch-shifting?

At an eating establishment here in town last night I was exposed to the Kanye's entire new album (yes - the service really WAS that slow), and though I never thought I would say this - it actually borders on being FANTASTIC.

The only thing that will absolutely keep my from listening to it entirely again, or for my own pleasure (which pisses me off), is the application of this effect on the vocals.

Not as spice - not as an enhancement - not as a way to create a mood or peak interest - but simply applied universally on every track beginning to end. It has long since progressed, especially in this case, from being used as a production technique for artistic purposes to being simply a trendy gimmick and a sign of the times.

This production technique has rubbed me the wrong way since I first heard it, and I abhor it even when used sparingly, but when OVERused, just like anything, it's just ridiculous, and becomes a parody of itself.

Different strokes for different folks and all that, but I really do like the album a lot for a lot of different reasons, and it just saddens me to see what could potentially be a stellar album, an artistic highlight of someone's career, and a positive influence on the same genre going forward, detracted from and trivialized by a grotesque production technique that is by any and all assessment overused and abused, and will serve to simply date the album and relegate it to insignificance by its very presence. That, my friends, is tragic.

Or is it just me?

I'm gonna have a beer.:sqfrown:
 
Have 2 Justin. It is obvious the techniques major purpose is to mask a thin very poor sounding voice. I too hate it. Everyone is now using it since T Pain first began his use of such. Funny thing is I hate the song Boom Boom Pow but actually thought it quite interesting how the BEP used it only sparingly for each artists portion of the song. I will now drink my Diet Pepsi and barbecue a steak.
 
LOL thanks Jon. Where did this technique originate anyway? First I ever heard it was in the 90's on the Cher song....

It kind of fizzled out with that at the time (thankfully) and then came back out with a vengeance just under a decade later.
 
T- Pain calls it Autotune vey similar to what Zapp and Roger have been using and Peter Frampton which was the Talk Box. Only now, it is digitally done. The Talk box you had to sing through a tube, much more degree of difficulty.

Earliest I heard it is Frampton comes alive album from the 70's.

YouTube - Peter Frampton - "Show Me The Way"

A talkbox and a Vocoder effect or pitch shifting are different in many ways...

A talkbox takes the voice or vocals being sung into the tube and combines that with what is being played on the guitar in the case of Peter Frampton... the two are never apart....

The closest thing I can recall is when digital keyboards first came out with sample capabilities... they would sample the voice and then use the pitch shift to alter and even combine the voice with notes on the keyboard... I'm trying to pin point the first I think you can hear this sort of effect as early as the late 60's if I'm not mistaking.... Cher as near as I can figure is the earliest Vocoderish type of effect used but was actually done through oversampling in the studio similarily to how it was done on a keyboard...

In the end the effect drives me nutz.... can't stand it!
 
Paula Abdul, Britney Spears and even Madonna used similiar pitch or key controllers to enhance their voices when doing the routines. Same with Backstreet, Nsync etc.
 
Paula Abdul, Britney Spears and even Madonna used similiar pitch or key controllers to enhance their voices when doing the routines. Same with Backstreet, Nsync etc.

Very true... but in their cases it was used to spice up the mix.... rather than to cover up bad music...
 
Very true... but in their cases it was used to spice up the mix.... rather than to cover up bad music...

That's the thing though.... I personally found a lot of the Kanye album to be quite compelling and interesting from a sonic standpoint. Thats why the presence of that effect was such a downer for me. If the rest of it were as crappy, I wouldn't care less. That's what makes it a shame.

Oh well.

Someone likes it I guess. Kids today are just used to it - that's not necessarily saying anything good though:)
 
Kanye cant sing a lick and so he thought he might teanscend to another level with the device. Plain and simple. He is a jerk but has lots of money to provide the best writers etc. If you saw the episode of punk'd with him being Punk Biotched he is an arrogant azz Whole.
 
Honestly

Britney cant sing well and fortunately she had alot of choreography experience with The M-I-C-K-E-Y MOUSE Club!!:sqwink:
Very true... but in their cases it was used to spice up the mix.... rather than to cover up bad music...
 
Kanye cant sing a lick and so he thought he might teanscend to another level with the device. Plain and simple. He is a jerk but has lots of money to provide the best writers etc. If you saw the episode of punk'd with him being Punk Biotched he is an arrogant azz Whole.

Jon's right I seen him a couple of years ago when he opened for the Stones. He can't sing a lick and is very boring to watch
 
It's an overused crutch that lost it's appeal almost immediately with me.


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